So then you have to say, well if the bottom line is that some foods are fattening. Some are not, which is not any different than your what, your grandmother would have said, right? She was said, you're not going to get fat eating broccoli, right? So logical conclusion, then you say well then I should eat less of these high insulin foods and more These not high insulin Foods, I'm going to fill up on the vegetables and the meat and the eggs and not fill up on cookies and, you know, that kind of thing, right? And that's the only thing that we're trying to say and everybody says, well, you know, you're so anti-science with calories and like know the calories is simply a very low level of thinking. It's a very simplistic level of thinking, what you have to think is the level above it? That is what is the body doing with those calories? What's a whore? Mona's Franz? What's your body doing? And of course what determines? How many calories you eat? Anyway. Well, it's your hunger, which is all dependent on hormones. What determines? How many calories like people, talking about fat equals calories and - calories out? Well, that's always true, but never, it's almost always misunderstood because what determines calories out is not just, you know, your willpower, it's how hungry you are. If you're hungry, you eat more, if you're less hungry, you eat less, that's the bottom line and what determines, how many calories you? End right, it's not exercise. Its almost all basal metabolic rate and what controls your basal metabolic rate. Well, it's your hormones. So what you're doing is you're trying to get to a deeper level understanding of what causes body weight gain. So therefore you can make a sort of rational decision insolence. Do. Hi. How am I going to lower insulin? So changing your diet is a perfectly rational way to do that but there's another way to do that and that's intermittent fasting is very simple. It Has been used for thousands of years. If you don't eat your insulin is going to drop as your instant drop your bottom is going to start pulling those calories out from storage and start using it. And the key is that there's nothing intrinsically unhealthy about. It actually turns out to be super healthy for most people in North America.