and so back to C13. What were your next steps? And when did you actually start getting a universal basic income for yourself?
Yes. One of the first things I did was they got involved as a moderator on the basic income subreddit and I tried to, you know, engage in those conversations, find like materials to post there. And also, you know, consumers money, much materials they could to learn more. Then eventually, I got to the point where I felt, I was comfortable enough to start, like, writing about basic income and trying You basically serve as like a popularizer and like translator of academic materials to try to explain things simpler in a more shareable consumable way. And then around late 2014 was discovered like patreon and I thought well this is like actually a really interesting kind of twist on Kickstarter where instead of like trying to to crowdfund like one stack of something for something. This was like a, an ongoing monthly crowdfunding and I thought, well, this is potentially a brilliant way of crowdfunding a monthly basic income for perpetuity. So I decided to go for that and it's funny to like that was actually that conversation I had with, with my wife, Katie, you know, at that time was just like, I have this idea. I think that I can, I can they think I can achieve this, and I could focus on those full-time if I can do it. And you know, I'm like, well, she thought, well, you know, maybe just she was hesitant and, you know, doubtful but, you know, I did it. And we look back at that conversation to it's like, well, yeah. Like we sure enough. You put your mind to it. You did it.
So when you say you did it, you went out to the Reddit community and said, hey guys, I want to popularize Universal basic income. So chip in 25 bucks a month and then I know people do it. Then I can just do this all the time. Was that the picture? Or what was
the pitch. Yeah, essentially. So I the the, when I set up my patreon it was like, so this is the goal of this is to crowdfund a basic income so that I can focus full-time on basic income, and sorry, launched that in late 2014. And it took all of 2015 to, you know, build it over time. And then I achieved my goal of $1,000 per month starting in January of 2016. So it was also interesting that process where, you know, I would write And then you put at the end, you can support me on patreon and you know, doing podcasts and stuff. You get the word out and then just slowly over time. More people would join in and start donating say, $1 a month, five dollars a month or something and that process was as the educational in itself because you know when I was at say four hundred dollars per month like just that's not a thousand dollars per month but because I knew that a four hundred dollars per month would be there on the first of next month. Then that in Itself was like this reduction of insecurity like this kind of feeling like that that's going to be there and it's gonna make a difference. And so, that's even why I feel as I feel about like smaller base getting comes where, you know, people say, oh, thousand dollars a month, that's nothing. It's like, well, no. Like even 500 is really something 402, something. 300 something it's all something to actually know that it's going to be there to have that stable source of security. I
just want to say just a total aside, I was just notified that I I was going to get a hundred sixty-four dollar check for the Korean royalties of the war on normal people and I was like a hundred sixty four dollars. Great. So I'm with you like you know, it like everything is something, you know like that it felt meaningful and if that was coming in every month it would be tremendously impactful for just about anyone, I think. Yeah,
it takes you a year to get this thousand bucks a month. We might as well. Do this segue right now? If someone wants to support you, they go to Scotts Anton's.com. Yeah,
it's a patreon.com slash Scott's, Anton's. Or you can find me yet through my website at Scott's Anton's.com, I'm
Starting a Patreon Helped Scott Santens Pioneer the UBI Movement
A conversation with Scott Santens, the original UBI advocate