It's been a long time since I read that some curious. How do we? I know you recommended a couple of things like, you know, and I Center for nutrition studies, right, you know, those things aside, you know, and certainly they would help right if we were making available billions of dollars for nutrition science, that word would eventually get out more right? The, the public media would start to discuss these Studies. And hopefully, that would start to make the ships but in the, you know, in the context of looking at it as a paradigm, how do you change that broader perception, right, you mentioned someone looks at you, you know, from with the side of their I you know, an NIH Center is not going to change the fact that we have, you know, religious and other sort of mythical levels of you know, Of connection and belief around, you know, things like milk and honey, right? How do you change people's minds and heart, you know, when they're trapped in this sign. And in this current paradigm. Where
you at? You're asking good questions, very challenging questions that. I mean it is a question of we educating ourselves as a society prepared. The clearly. I'm well, I'm reminded just to sort of follow on what we're saying. I'm reminded of Lyndon Johnson, when he decided not to run for office again, and the right soon as he had left the White House. He had a meeting with a group of Our pharmaceutical company Executives, right? And I first saw this report. It was written in by the editor, Scientific American in a vicious magazine at that time. 1969. It was Joshua comes in. And he's talking, these leading pharmaceutical company Executives and he says to him, he says, well boys, how do you like to wear spent your money? And then it's a too much and he said you heard made you and he had a flip chart there. He went on to show them. He says, you know, we every year we fight over how much money is going to go into this kind of research and you know, as always give and take in and said we don't we have to do all the time. We can have a steady budget we don't need to worry about how much is there. We have a steady buddy at certain percent of the total budget every year. We can study, whatever you understudy. And here's what he said, John, this is according to the editor of sight. American who actually was there, recorded this wrote. The story Johnson says he Johnson said, if you all of you the 50 top companies, if you paid all of your taxes, your trust in a matter of three years, we have all the money they earn their trust. You know, instead of paint action for the trust, there's the money. There it is. We know how much they're going to be every year and then you can study the best kind of things, but he said to him, he said, you know, you will not allow that to happen. Because you say you own, did I age? And you know, and I know it. And so, it was very blunt, is to say the least, and I have been very much involved in NIH. They put in my work. I've been on their committees. I've talked to the directors. I know very well. That's an absolutely true. So, here's an institution, this basic essentially controlled to live according to a certain understanding. Let's call Carol. Drugs are good. Let's work on it. Let's get some more. Lets me spend lots of money and look at look at right now with the governor's spending to try to Foster the development of new vaccine. The billions of dollars has been spent there yet and we don't know the answer to what's going to happen to help us if we're the best, but we don't know. And so when you have all that stuff going on and then you asking the question, your help. What can we do? How can we get it turned around? This kind of thing what you're doing? Right now. I can say that's in my view. That's one of the significant things. It takes time. It really has to do with educating the public of thing, because a lot of people just don't know this, they should respect it. Like you said before. They don't find it too. Surprising, but they don't know why I think the depth of the problem. And so if they could just learn that this kind of This kind of eating has such a dramatic effect on their health and along the way, they learn some other things to learn. You think if they do well, and of course, spend a lot of money on medical care. Which is killing, you know, it's economically dragons country. Not so most or those, they work, and know that all that livestock were raising because of that. Good protein. If they know that's not necessary. That's related to environmental problems. It's an emergency. So there you have it. We got some big problems. All, just all coming down to just patiently. What do we know about nutrition? What do we know about the food? We're eating? And what it's actually has on health. I don't know how we can get there faster. But we got now we got this kind of thing, you know, podcasts and, you know, Electronic media and all that sort of stuff to convey information, you know, in 30 seconds around the world. So we just have technology available that I think we can. Probably have a greater impact in Westmont a suspended in this was Vindication cashiers. Who knows. But
I think you're spot on that. It will be education, right? Because ultimately ultimately, you know, as you're mentioning we have a hundred million people in this country alone that are pre-diabetic or by it a diabetic already, you know, and in the next 10 years that's going. Bankrupt the country. Not to even mention the pain and suffering, an early death, and all the comorbidities that stem from such a devastating metabolic disorder. But also just, you know, thinking about the financial ramifications, if you know, fifty percent of our GDP is going just to keep sick people alive, you know, it is going to force some, some very deep conversations and we just have to hope that the Education comes first, right? Because ultimately, you know, it will come down to individuals choices and and whether or not there is a sort of Groundswell of support for these these natural interventions as opposed to the DraStic technologies that we have to otherwise develop just to keep people alive, you know, and obviously I you know, where I stand, right? We have an app that helps people go plant base for this. Reason how we're trying to get the word out as fast as we can.
Getting More People to Eat Healthier Is an Education Problem