child poverty tax credit is enormously impactful and anything we can do to help make it. Permanent we should do. One of the interesting things is that Republicans are for it because it felt pro-family and I agree with that. No, I mean it's mean heck, anything against catch? An American families hands. I'm all for, it's been incredibly invigorating to see Humanity forward develop into this non-partisan / bipartisan lobbying shop where it's become. A real player and the team is very talented and they've hired experienced lobbyists. It reminds me of this onion article that really helped shape something for me forever, which was like the American people hire their own lobbyists to fight for their interests on Capitol Hill. It was like this way the American people will have. So I feel like Humanity forward has become the people's lobbyists that way and Universal basic income is something that there was no natural interest. Group for except for the people it's like to is universal. Basic income would help. It's like well all of us it's like well, who cares about that, you know? So so that this people's Lobby on Capitol Hill, is so fascinating to me and the fact that that's now a permanent fixture. I mean, you know, it's getting support from different players and diverse support and Only one, I want to support that this Mission, you can go to humanity forward.com and, you know, make individual contributions to. But I have to say talking to the team at Humanity forward after I got off the mayoral because I and talk to them in a little while was so uplifting, you know, it makes me feel like we're set to do an enormous amount of good for years and years to come.
Yeah, absolutely. There was a, you know, again one of the, the, the best things to come out of your campaign and to be able to launch like, right during the pandemic to get cash to people. I mean, I know that that made a huge difference in people's lives to just getting those like the micro grants out to people. And it was just, you know, immediate and it was before the government was even getting checks out, too. Now,
we distributed 12 million dollars or so directly to people in very Using amounts. And you know, this is a deep question for for us all is that if you had a choice between taking 12 million dollars and giving it to struggling Americans, which we did do and taking four million dollars in, spending it on lobbyists to try and get for ads or you know mailers or whatever the heck to try and get a hundred billion dollars from the government for Americans like which do you choose and So what we did in real life was we said twelve million dollars directly to people and then, you know, maybe three or four million on lobbying, you know, is that the Right Mix. But but that's a real thinker for the people at home. And when I tried to figure out the return on investment for the 600 dollar checks, it was something like, you know, over a million percent and And one of the business truisms is that lobbying is a very high efficiency activity or high impact activity where like for every lobbying dollar you get like 12 dollars in economic returns. It's crazy. Yeah.
If you're a multimillion-dollar like, you know, giant corporation like, why would you not spend at least some percentage of your money doing that if it can mean, you know, a huge return on that investment? So yeah, that's just how it works. So yeah, we need to have a people's lobbyist. We need to have this. Is making sure that, you know, instead of relying on Charities, to get money, to people that the government actually does its job and gets money to people, and that we should even be having to go through this process in the first place. Like, you know, we should have had a basic income in place before this pandemic even hit. We should have had, you know, automatic stabilizers in place that automatically started getting, you know, kicking out unemployment boosts to people and, you know, monthly swimming as checks to people above their basic income like, you know, we should automate more Or of those to make sure the government actually gets money to people when the people need it. And it's a matter of setting that up.
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