Now, there's a, there's another side to this that I want to ask about, which is the use of cold in particular, things like ice baths, cold showers, or Any other type of cold, temperature exposure, you know, in theory that stress also its epinephrine. And so how should one think about the use of cold for recovery. So if it's stress, how is if stress if colds causes stress? Then how is cold used for Recovery? That's what I don't understand and maybe you just want to share your thoughts on that. Yeah.
No. No, I think you know, I think it's a great question and I think The the jury is still out there certainly not some of the conversations that we've been having, but I think, you know, when we talk about stress, it's your classic fight flight or freeze approach and you know, throwing your body into, you know, a cold tub, an ice bath, or whatever. It may be, and certainly is going to have a physiological stress response. Now, people are using that for different end and goals. And again, I think that's where the narrative has to be explained. If you are using the stress specifically, E to manage the mindset to use it as a specific stress stimulus. That's the same as me doing, six by ten, eighty percent. You know, you're just trying to find something to disrupt the system to do something. That's very if want a better term painful. Discomfort, whatever you just finding a stressor and then being able to manage the mindset. But if you're using cold specifically from a physiological perspective to promote, you know, Redistribution of vascularity of blood flow, you know, two different vascular areas of muscle that you feel have gone through a workout that a damaged or whatever. It may be. I think there's, we've got to understand what that stress mechanism is. And, you know, the data the literature is certainly still out there with respect to cryotherapy and cold baths. And some of these, you know, hi, these cold exposures, in terms of what they do at the level of the muscle tissue. If that's if that's the target, if you're Trying to promote a flushing mechanism. Are you trying to promote redistribution of the blood flow? What you've got to understand is that cold is going to clamp down every part of the vascular system. And we've really got to understand how the muscle would be redistributed to areas of Interest. So, you know, I think the stress response is is a real thing with respect to, you know, cold exposure, but I think the narrative around. What are you using the cold for has Precede the conversation because yes, it's, you know, it's like putting your hand over a hot coals, you know, that's a stress. The same way. I was jumping in a cold bath is, I
think most people don't realize that you're going to get the epinephrine release from holding your hand out to close to lime and you're gonna get it from getting in the ice bat,
your body doesn't know the difference, right? Your body does not know the difference. It is a, you know, a primordial kind of physiological response that it's created over millions and millions of years and I think That's that physiology is is not changing and it's fixed in a particular way right now that that it doesn't understand the difference between whether it's six by ten doing a challenging workout over here, whether it's putting my hands on the hot coal where there's a lion stood in front of me, or whatever that epinephrine response from the, the level of the brain down to the whole signaling Cascade is the same
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