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Sincere Questions May Receive A Reply - Kapil Gupta on Clubhouse (March 29th 2022)
Sincere Questions May Receive A Reply - Kapil Gupta on Clubhouse (March 29th 2022)

Sincere Questions May Receive A Reply - Kapil Gupta on Clubhouse (March 29th 2022)

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Kapil Gupta
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Mar 29, 2022
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Hello. Um, what questions do you ask yourself?
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When you are stuck intellectualizing.
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I don't intellectualize.
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Hi there. Can you hear me?
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Go ahead. Thanks for taking my question. I just had a quick question about love and attachment. I've seen you, one of your discourses discuss love is really fundamentally attachment. And I can understand that kind of on a visceral level because I've been in relationships and I realized that I've become more of an attachment, but I want I wanted to ask, is it really possible to love somebody without becoming attached?
0:56
Yes, it's a fair question. I think the only way that one would be able to answer that question is if they had rid themselves of attachment and then they would be able to examine if what remained was what they call, love until that happens. Everything is essentially more or less
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attachment.
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Thank you, my pre. She ate it.
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Hike uphill. My question is, why don't I understand? Actually, why don't I know
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that I'm going to die because I understand like intellectually. I know everything around me, who will do the same for everybody. So generally speaking.
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People is, it's an intellectual understanding, but is purely intellectual. It hasn't hit home on a visceral level and the attempt to force it to do that. Generally fails hike appeal. My question is, can people change.
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I'm not sure. That's a valid question because change has no meaning.
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If you change your change back.
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It's back to the self-help and self-development and all of those things. I'm not telling someone they shouldn't do it. If you wish to do it, you're free to. But those things don't really go anywhere. They're just circular chases.
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Hey Kapil, how's it going? My question is, can you choose what you want? If you look at and that's your desires and have perspective about what's going to make you
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happy or more piece.
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Can you choose what you truly want in your heart?
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I'm not sure Choice has much to do with it. I mean things that have desires, that arise typically, arise of their own accord. And usually, they usually aren't chosen into place. They aren't usually chosen into existence.
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Thank you.
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Hey, dr. Gupta. So if you haven't
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found truth yourself, is it possible to
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put your children on a path to find that
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truth, or is it something that you have to find yourself first?
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Well, I mean if you if a person himself hasn't found it then how can he put?
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Somewhere else in a position to find a number one. And number two, any path that you prescribed will tend to fail because there's no recipe for it.
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So there's no
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path a couple. How are
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you? One thing this group can take
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away from the life of Jonica. Thank you.
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Could you please tell me the truth about instinct?
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Well, it's a very general question mean, if you have a, if you have a question, that's the biggest because a specific question. I mean, I'm not.
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In response to a question. I'm not going to give a talk.
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Hi doctor, thank you for taking my
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question, when thinking about, when thinking about things in terms with respect to life and death juxtaposed to life and death. Everything seems trivial. Is it wrong to think that life and
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death are all. So superficial constructs
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that we take more seriously than they should be. Is everything really just
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At the same level of seriousness.
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You could in the end, call everything a construct but life is real and death is real and everything in between tends to be a construct. But if, if one wants to consider life and death, also constructs TV, but that tends to be it suggests and intellectualization of things because that basically, is that basically is standing at arm's.
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From the things that really trouble a person in his or her life. So sure you can call anything a construct but the question tends to suggest. I don't know this for a fact that it suggests that you are perhaps moving away from the real problems of your
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life.
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Hi, so I'm just curious. What's your favorite subject? And it doesn't have to be something that you've studied before. Just could be some.
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Hello, thank you for taking me. Is it possible to love without the selfish element?
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The problem with words is that they require definitions and each person definition is different. So it does not. It depends what one means. When they mean selfish. It's a very big word. Everything is contextual.
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You have five million people.
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Who asked five million questions and each person views words, they're in their own and their own light through their own specific interpretation. Therefore the word cannot be considered universal. So the question you're asking depends entirely upon what you are. Meaning of selfish is, I will tell you a generally that the word selfish is denoted in a, in a negative sense.
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Poor as unselfish and altruism tends to have an air of Holiness or goodness in reality. The opposite is
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true. Fail. Thank you so much for having me up. It's pretty surreal to talk to, as I've been very immersed in your work for a while. Now, for several months. My question is regarding me. Wasting my life and I've realized
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And that I've wasted so much if not all of my life and I continue to do. So. And that realization has allowed me has resulted in me, you know, not wasting my time in certain ways such as, you know, self-help or certain intellectualism things, but yet I still find myself wasting a lot of my time, just in other ways. Is this a sign that I, that there's something I have yet to
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understand.
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Sure it is but but it typically is the case that a person who feels viscerally about the shame or guilt of wasting their lives tends to also be the one often times. He was chance to get out of that, a person who doesn't even realize that or doesn't care. We'll never get out of that. So that is something that
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You know, tends to be a ray of light for an individual who realizes that fact, you know, as to what to do this to to not waste it mean that's a non-starter that doesn't go anywhere. But but the recognition on ones own of One's Own Accord into that insight for himself. It has the potential to go a long way.
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Hello, Capilla. I
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followed your work for a while now and
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thank you for everything you put out there late.
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We have come to this thought about Paradox and that there is truth in Paradox. Wondering if you have come to this conclusion, possibly yourself in that it's you know, like you're talking
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generalities. Number one. That sounds like a very intellectual question. You seem to have a tinge of the intellectual. What do you really want to
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ask?
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I would say why is it that so few failed to see the truth? Well, people don't matter, right? Only matters is you
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Do you don't you don't lay them awake at night thinking about your fourth neighbor down the street to you?
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No, okay, then what do you care? See? That's just more avoidance. It's all about you.
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Again, what is
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gained from a life of solitude and what is
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lost?
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What about gain and loss?
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Hey, couple. Thanks for taking my question. Your thoughts of J. Krishnamurti and his teachings. I really want short blog on your see, the website. Like, could you please elaborate a little bit more?
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No, I don't. No reason to elaborate I elaborated plenty in the discourse.
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Hey cut, Bill. Thanks for everything that you're doing that. I've been listening to your talks for like a year now, but I've always been asking myself what. So the mind seems to be involved in perception in thinking and processing and of decision-making. What do we do? Was conscious beings that separate from the mind.
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No, you don't really do anything because the human being is a slave to his mind and until that stops. The really there really is nothing to ask in that particular perspective that you just asked there because you ask as if you have a choice and the person who is imprisoned by the mind has no choice.
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Think about my question is, what exactly keeps the Mind alive, you do.
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I compel truly an honor to speak to you. My question is, what justifies a where the question to ask oneself.
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Prepare a question. I don't think it's about the content of the question, really. It's the things that happen in one's life that tend to last and the things that are real. Are those things that arise from seriousness and sincerity.
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Thanks to them. The more that a thing qualifies for seriousness and sincerity, the closer to the heart of the matter. The question seems to be
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hello.
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Hello, there. Can I have one minute of your time to add context to my question?
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I'll make it as quick as possible. I really need to get to the
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question. Oh, okay, um, in oh, I apologize. And then I will leave. Then. I cannot really express it properly.
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Thanks for taking my question.
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How do you find the motivation to do your best every day? Thanks.
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Do your best has no meaning?
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Do you do you do your best when you walk to your
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car?
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Possibly so that I don't get into, you know, how to do you you should possibly, how do you know that you do your best. Do you mind that when you when you come home? Do you think about? Do you buy a book about doing your best to walk to your car?
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Recommended by the thought leaders in Silicon Valley about down there, fancy reading list. Next to Seneca, do your best, to walk to your car. Do you look into that? Do you ever look into, do you do your best to comb your
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hair?
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Possibly.
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I think you're doing my best you contribution. Well, that's my point. Is you don't ever think about these things. Mmm, right? So what do you mean by doing your best?
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Not me. That would only that would only mean something. You can only judge that if there was a do your best m?
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At your work.
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And you could put your fingerprint on the meter and the meter could tell you if you did your best.
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So absent to that.
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If you could try every prescription method technique in hack in the world, how do you know that you're doing your best?
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and and even if the, even if the meter said that you are doing your best,
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What does that give you?
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That's a complaint. Thank you. Hi couple. Thank you for having me on stage. Just wanted to ask, you know, how does one initiate like that Journey from listening less to the mind and more to the soul. Thank you.
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Do you know what a soul is?
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I presume. It's not my mind because it my mind is very
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noisy. Okay. So you said, so you said that it's not your mind. Well, the only so, according to that, then.
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What you're implying. If I'm not mistaken. I'm just basing upon your answers that there's only two things, there's the mind and the soul.
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Because when I asked you, if you don't the soul was, you said it's not my mind. So that means there's nothing else between mind and soul.
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Right? Because when I'm listening to my mind, it's just very noisy. I'm assuming my soul would be peaceful place. I asked. You, is there. Nothing else beside beside the mind, and soul?
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Okay, so if you're sure there's a lot, what I asked you.
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Do you know what? Soul is? You said? It's not my mind.
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But I didn't ask you. The only way that that response would be valid is if there were two things mind and soul period, Then simply by virtue of you saying, but soul is not mine, then you would know that. Okay. Only one thing is left, which is sold. But you've also admitted that he probably many other things, which right beside the mind and soul. So therefore you don't know what soul is.
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All right. Thank you. So I'm not, I'm not, I'm not denigrating you.
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What I, what I, what I'm doing with you is, I'm, I'm using you as a gentle example.
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To show how everyone in the world has been completely.
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And utterly conditioned by words and ideas and Concepts and Notions. They throw around words because the words have been thrown to them.
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Not having any not have any meaning. No context. I like the gentlemen before you. How do I get motivated to do my best?
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Well, right, drink orange juice and endless motivation is going to get you. When you walk in the door. If you're motivated, the boss and give you a big hug and a kiss. And if you did your best, he's going to Pat you on the back and give you a nine dollar raise these things. These things have. No me where there is. No specificity. There is waste.
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The truth is you have no idea what soul is. So if you do not know what soul is, why do you want to speak to it? And how would you speak to it? And how would you even know if you're speaking to it? Therefore you have no idea what you're asking. I don't blame you for not having any idea because that is the world that you live in. Now you living in that world still is no excuse. Because, at least you could divorce yourself from the nonsense of the world and say, okay. I'm not going to accept anything until I understand.
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What these words mean for myself? Not take anyone's belief, not take anyone's opinion, not read nonsensical, spiritual books, not read stupid moronic, idiotic self-help books. All of these things are really for the unserious.
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Thank you. Thank
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you.
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Yeah. Hello. Dr. Koop Gupta sonam's, speak to you. I have a question on interference. I've seen this over and over again, that a thought arises, and I immediately pursued the action. And therefore, I concluded that. It's the Mind who does the decisions. Therefore. I'm wondering when we talk about interference is still the mind are just doing the acting like
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I don't know what you mean by interference. I mean you use that word at the very beginning when you used it again. I have no idea what you're talking about. I know what the word means, but like I said, it's all about context. So I'm not sure what you're what you mean by interference will use when you saying,
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yeah, so what I mean is for example, desire arises to pursue pleasure, and I would then we press it.
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I assume. That's what you mean of interference. Is that
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correct? The whole, I mean by your parents. I'm not, I haven't defined interference. I mean, if I use a word interference, okay, and defined depending on the context in which I use it. So I could use it a slightly different way. So first of all, I don't know why you're suppressing your desires. I didn't tell you to do that. Nothing in nothing that I ever wrote.
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No, not yet as to just who quickly claimed.
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What I mean is so I assume basically reading your work. That interference means whenever a desire arises and I would suppress it. That witness that is considered interference. I'm not saying that that I would I do it is just more that I try to understand what
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interference is and I. Yeah, I don't, I've never I've never said that. I've never, yeah, I don't know where you got this from as far as my work goes.
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I've never said that you should interfere with your desire to stand between having the desire and then suppressing it by interfering, right? Like never, but so, what question? What's your?
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Yeah. Okay, so it's not too generic. I learned to ask you what is interference then because as I said, I thought that is whenever
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I mean in
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Doing so good. It depends on context. You can see, you can ask. What is interference? Okay. Yes, it does. It depends upon what you're talking about. Hmm, but I but I but I will tell you from what you said? Suppressing desires doesn't usually go. Some doesn't usually go anywhere.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Hello, everybody. What are you talking about?
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Yes. Is so sorry. It took 10 minutes later or so. Sorry.
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Hey, Kapil. Hope you're a dumb. Well, appreciate what you do, and hope my question isn't foolish, but wouldn't anything we do invariably lead to a pleasure
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Chase. Even
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if I'm not doing something overtly for pleasure, because the whole pleasure pain to ality, but if something's done, and it's of a practical purpose, wouldn't it be serving me some sort of pleasure and or the avoidance of misery, doesn't matter. I'm climbing. I
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mean, I think that you're turning pleasure into.
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Into a negative and into a rule. So it doesn't it it's about the recognition of things not the breaking of the rules. Right? So if it depends upon where one is going and what one is trying to achieve, not all you did wrong again because you crossed the red line that what this is about. This is about this is about being aware of what you were doing so that you can monitor yourself.
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What about Commandments? And that you dou. Dou shall not Chase pleasure?
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Hey, couple.
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I have goals that I look to achieve as a consequence or a byproduct of seeking truth. Does that mean that I'm in sincere that I'm not authentic?
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Firstly, let's say that. I said to you that, that was inauthentic and insincere.
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What what would that cause you to do?
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What do you mean?
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Well, guess what? I asked.
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What didn't you
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understand?
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Let me Ponder on it. Hike up you. Thank you for giving me opportunity to ask the question. My question is, does self-esteem really have to do with the fear of rejection or is it all a social construct?
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I mean, that's really pigeonholing self-esteem. It's a very very large. It's a much larger topic.
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Than that. I'm you just mentioned one, one element on it.
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Thank you.
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A local business.
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I came up with some questions that.
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I have paved about for myself.
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but at the end of it is always some type of fear, which is
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holding me on, I'm not able to get past there and
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that itself is becoming a very
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much.
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Buried for me.
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I don't know if you get a notice to is to general question.
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Hello. Zack. Can the heart have a true and honest desire for intimacy with
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another or is any desire involving someone else usually entirely in the realm of the
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Mind?
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From a, from a practical perspective, what gets one into problems is all mind because that's where a person is conditioned to move towards regardless of how something may begin.
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Hello. I hope you're well. My question is, simply, do you think emotions should be moralized? So why or why not? And do you think, should think should be more or less in general? And what the conditions for that might be a
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humorous. Morality morality is a construct.
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So I've noticed that understanding has this unique characteristic of transforming ourselves. So I want to ask you, can you draw a distinction between somebody that is enslaved by the mind? And that's somebody not being been saved by the mind to see the distinction.
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There are many distractions.
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Something that could help in realizing like the contrast
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well, person who is not enslaved by the mind is
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free. Yes, but that's vague of something more.
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Palpable, basically, whatever your experience of life is.
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Whatever things that you experience that torture, you and give you suffering the complete
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opposite.
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One night when I see mother kids bullying, my son. I want to help him, but I really don't know how
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And he's six years,
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but I can't help you with something. I can't tell you what to do there. I understand what you're feeling but I can't, I can't say go do this.
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Hi,
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and I don't know if, you know, if you are interested by ideas of Osho, but can you tell me about this character, great ways in fuming.
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Please.
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Hi, I just recently heard your YouTube conversation with novel and about the, Conquering the mind. And I'm curious, you explained that the idea of like, like, for example, you use the example of anxiety, where the solution is not, not to, like, figure out what, what, to remove anxiety, but to understand anxiety, and
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Like, observe it as a third person. Is it possible that you could clarify that, but I still haven't understood that
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concept. I tell you to observe it, then you're going to turn into a prescription and they're going to sit there and watch your thoughts and do all the nonsense that spirituality tells you. So another do with observing anything. It really is the understanding and the understanding is that you don't chase Solutions. You understand the problem itself. That's the bat. The take-home understanding from there. It's up to the individual himself to do what
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Arc, which is a wishes that comes organically. It isn't about what jean, they're going to use the word do, observe your ex, because I know the world's gonna happen, you're going to turn into am tan and you get to watch her. You going to go. Observe, and that's the road to hell. That's where all
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Spirituality dies. That's where all self-help falls. Right through the floor, is through the method izing and turning things into a hack and a technique. It is the greatest plague in
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existence.
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Is there are any utility in prescriptions as want as long as one knows?
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The limitations of
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them. So, I mean, the question, seeing the question sounds like a request for permission to use prescriptions. That's what it sounds like. And firstly there's no need to ask that when we're keeping do any prescription you wish to do but a person who asks, if a prescriptions are of any utility is
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Not a person who is interested in the dismantling of prescriptions, the the the interest does not lie in the direction of understanding how prescriptions hurt and cause problems and create pitfalls in blockages and so long as that is not the intention then any answer that is given to the contrary question, which is are prescriptions. Okay to some
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Degree, it's just a non-starter. It's kind of like if I jump into a mud pit. Is there any way that I can not get mud on my entire body? Just my legs. That's the kind of question. It is. Therefore, you don't need to ask that question. Just do prescriptions.
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Hello, kebbel, thanks for having me on and thanks for hosting.
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My first, I guess my comment starts out as more of a statement. I read a poem on and also have listened to quite a few hours of your conversations and read quite a bit that you read or written rather. And after having done a bunch of this, I ran into some friends for the first time in a while, and they
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thought something was wrong with me.
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And we're actually
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Calling me after running into me and asking me to make sure everything was okay. And
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it just kind of got me thinking along the lines of
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well, you know,
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can we can we can we really be
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on the path of Truth?
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And get along with people
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from our former lives. The question of getting along. It isn't a question of getting along, its, it's where one's allegiances. If one's Allegiance, is more in the direction of making socializations. And that is where one's interest lies. Then true will tend to be a very difficult thing for that individual because it tends to be completely at odds with an individual whose
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Ex socialization and Friends circles, and all of these things. Of course, it does. Not mean that an individual cannot have friends and cannot have acquaintances and cannot had conversations. Of course. It doesn't mean that. However, having said that, I don't need to tell you as you've already experienced firsthand, if, if you discuss truth with other people, you generally will be met with awkward glances and people calling you afterwards.
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To ask you for things. All right. So the the more that you have read, the more Awkward you are going to seem to others if you espouse or carry on your sleeve those sentiments. So stating stating it purely, truth is a solitary Pursuit because there's not there aren't many people in the world who are genuinely seeking truth. Therefore, by
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Condition. All of your so-called friends are going to be individuals who aren't interested in truth. Therefore, you will always be the black sheep in the odd man out.
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It's odd because in these situations that I'm referring to actually felt, you know, quite well and if anything maybe in a better State than I had prior after. That's
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why I that's why I always say it's about you. Right, right. It's if you try to democratize it the I think I
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I think the one of the greatest things that are one of the most fundamental misunderstanding is that there can be group anything. And there's not if you have a group, anything, it's a group disaster is not serious. It is insincere group, meditation group, you know, talk to a group about wisdom or whatever. It is. Everything's on the level of the individual. Nothing is a group.
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So nothing can be nothing, can be from that from that
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realm, the most
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personally interesting aspect to this is that, you know, as a young child, I felt kind of very
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apart and very different and that's a feeling that was lost through socialization over
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time and that kind of stuff. I get it sort of reminded me of that. Now tends to be that those who are on a genuine path to true with, you know, with varying degrees of sincerity.
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Tend to the individuals who did not fit into the Norms of society. They tend to be Fringe individuals Fringe in the sense of, you know, not socialization, tends not to be there there. The thing that, that moves them. The
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most. Thank you for your time. And your work, Namaste. Hello.
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Before I started to read your work, I was
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going through one of the worst phase in my life, you know, I was jumping from this book to that book. This book to that book every time
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and after I started to read your book, it's like I
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get every time I read your or guy every time I listen to your
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like interview, I get extremely
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strong, emotional reaction sometimes
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And I get so emotional, it lasts for like week. And sometimes, you know, the thing that I read about your work or like, even writing say, anything that I hear from you.
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It lasts for like months. Sometimes it has been happening for a long time now doesn't almost a year. Geez, the
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Can I say that I am part 2 as True
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Tori GT still? That I am thinking through my mind.
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Well, I don't know, I can't tell you to which degree you were thinking through your mind or not to mean, generally speaking. Everyone is lost in mind, but the truth, the truth tends to have a fairly significant effect upon some people so it's not me. It's just the power of the
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truth.
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Hey couple. Thanks for having me and thank you for everything that you do. I read your discourse about anger and the truth of anger, which really helped me conquer my anger issues to struggle with that. A lot. One of the things which have been struggling, all my life and has plagued me, is he ran inside, and I've been desperately looking for answers. I've read your discourse and you mentioned that,
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Giada ultimate fear is fear of oneself. Oh, how one might think about oneself. I read or show. And also says, it's ultimately, we feared that and I've been reading Christian Duty and genic. I know, but I still haven't been able to truly understand. They are all these. Is there any ultimate fear? Which all the greats are talking about including, you know, because everyone talks about everything from the standpoint.
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Point of prescription, right? And wherever wherever there is a prescription do this or do that or pretend this or think that or try this or meditate, this or mindfulness that that's just the way to keep you exactly where you are.
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So don't let that's the most critical thing for anybody. It isn't to move away from prescription. It is to it is to understand if they are willing and interested to look into the nature of prescriptions and how they
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abandon and stand in the way of human progress.
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