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Jocko Underground: The Cure To Self Doubt. Exercise, New Baby, and Jocko is the New Chuck Norris.
Jocko Underground: The Cure To Self Doubt. Exercise, New Baby, and Jocko is the New Chuck Norris.

Jocko Underground: The Cure To Self Doubt. Exercise, New Baby, and Jocko is the New Chuck Norris.

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Echo Charles, Jocko Willink
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May 9, 2022
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This is the jungle underground podcast sitting here with
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EC Echo, Charles, and me, Drogo will like the open mind.
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Which is good and self self doubt Self Doubt. So people freak out a little bit about self-doubt and sometimes it consumes them. Right? Some people will
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try and
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discourage you from having any self-doubt like, you gotta believe in yourself, right? This is the junko underground podcast sitting here with
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EC Echo, Charles and me, Drogo will like
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the open.
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End.
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Which is good and self self doubt Self Doubt. So people freak out a little bit about self-doubt and sometimes it consumes them. Right? Some people will
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try and
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discourage you from having any self-doubt like you gotta believe in yourself. Right? For me. Self-doubt
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is not only, not only, okay, but kind of good in a way.
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And
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I was listening to BJ Penn on Joe Rogan's podcast
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and Rogue and started talking about Mike
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Tyson. Who is training with custom auto and Custom Auto was actually that's a hopeful that that whole thing is crazy. You start that I guess they're turning that into a movie right now. I don't know how they're going to pull it off,
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but
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custom motto was
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he guided Mike Tyson, so,
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like perfectly to become the champ.
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By talking to him and by
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explaining things psychologically and kind of like hypnotizing him and it just influencing him.
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So
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So
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powerfully, you know that Mike Tyson was a machine, right? He turned into a mushy. So one of the things he said was was and again, this is a quote from Rogan which is a quote from Custom accustomed Auto. So who knows how perfect time to get it, but the basic quote is, fear is like fire. It can warm it can warm and cook your food warm you and it can cook your food or it can burn your house down, right? So this is also a clearly a dichotomy, right? But I think it's
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He was selfless self-doubt because if your, if you have some Self Doubt.
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It's going to be good because you're pushing your like train a little extra. You're going to prepare a little bit more.
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But it can also write serve you if you're going in a jiu-jitsu tournament and you have self-doubt, you're going to like train extra hard and do some cardio and you're going to lift weight and you're going to work on your wrestling. You're doing work. If you think you're going to go in there and dominate, you know, you're backing off and it's the same thing with anything in
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life. But
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also you could not enter the tournament, right? You could be so freaked out that you're not going to know you're not going to go for the job interview or you're not going to go talk to your boss about getting a raise like none of that stuff's going to happen because your
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You're doubting it and so you got to find that balance.
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But
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so now to kind of go a little tangental for
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me. I have another
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kind of self-doubt which is also kind of positive in my opinion, which is when someone pushes back against me when someone's got some other idea that I don't agree with.
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I think to myself. Okay. What do I what do I not understand? So if I say, hey Echo, here's the plan for what we do to Nate tonight. And you say,
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I don't like that plan. I don't
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think you're bad. I don't think you're an idiot. I think. What is it that? I don't see why don't why? Why does Echo see something that? I don't see and this actually opens my mind. So for me self-doubt is a is a
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State of mind, that actually opens up my mind and allows me to
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listen. Now. Here's here's,
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here's the thing about having the open mind. I've been talking to a lot of people. A lot of clients
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about this. Your mind is the
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natural mode of operating for your mind is too close. That's the natural mode of operating. Why? Because it's safer, because it's easier.
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It's more comfortable. So, the many you have to open your mind up to someone else's ideas. It gets gonna get uncomfortable. The minute you open up. This is your mind to someone else's ideas. Things are going to Carter, cuz you gotta take in what they're saying. You got to do this calculus,
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just like
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bacteria, right? We have we have a we're afraid of bacteria. We're afraid of snakes. We stay away from them. That's what a new ideas snake that's going to get in your head. So the natural thing to do is to close our
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minds.
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And so
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it's difficult to go through life because if you don't pay attention, your mind, your mind is constantly just
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trying to get closed back up, and try not to let any other ideas. And
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and clearly, this
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is a pandemic right now out
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in the world because people's minds are just boom, boom, closing closing,
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closing and it's it's
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you have to pay attention to it. So you actually have
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Attach to see the your mind is closed, right? You won't see it on your own. You won't see
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it.
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If you're not thinking about it. If you're not consciously trying to pull back and check where your brain is at, where your mind is, at is going to be closed and you can just be running around, just not knowing that your mind is closed. You're just how will, you know it, you won't know it.
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You won't know it. It's like there's no interference coming in to let you know. Hey,
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your mind is closed and occasionally, you
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get rocked with some
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radical idea. I mean, can you imagine the guys that were doing like
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whatever traditional martial art in
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1989 and how crazy
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it was for someone to come in and take them down and choked them with a huge. It's
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what
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you know, like how crazy was it when they threw their
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Magic strike
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and they it
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didn't work at all. And then this guy just grabbed them and hip toss them or double leg them and then all of a sudden they're getting choked and and they their their mind is so closed. You know what they say immediately. Let's try that again. The only people I've had say that to me, especially in the early days of Jiu-Jitsu like I would roll with somebody and they, let's try that again. Their mind, couldn't couldn't even accept. What's happened. Normally. I don't know what you found. It would be like,
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325 submissions before. Someone actually understands that there's something going on here that they don't get before their mind, even cracks barely open. It takes them skidding submitted. Three to five times before they even recognize this.
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Yes, makes sense.
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But yeah, I don't have a concrete number there. You've never. I mean, how many times you have? Somebody? Look a little. Let's see. Yeah, the only to be honest. The only time that's ever happened where someone be like, oh, let's go again. Like they didn't like Believe it or they thought. Oh, I just fell down in a bad spot or something like that is like at like a party or something at a barbecue that can take those counts man. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I would definitely end up in more, let's say direct because you know, I'm in the ramen.
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It's thinking that they know, some stuff and especially because I do not mean I'm in the teams with guys that were you know, 80s guys and 90s guys that are like, hey, we learned that. If you do this, you're 100% going to go down. It's like, okay, do it to me. Yeah, double leg. Rear naked choke. Yeah, but it takes. So you did you choke someone once twice. Three times their minds. Not even open yet. They're still like that was like you said, I love you. Just fell down. You
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Got lucky and he would take that multiple attacks and submissions before their mind, even gets a little bit open. And then, normally like a half an hour like who's go one more to get, they like a closes back up again. Mmm. So that happens to all of us and it's it's unnatural to keep your mind open. It's unnatural. It's not, it's not the human mode of operating to open up to listen to what other people have to
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say. And
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yet, if you can do it, if you can go through
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life, keeping that thing like taking a stick and putting it in your mind. And so that the little hatch is pried open and it's stuck open. You're going to be your new have such a easier
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time.
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Understanding other people understanding of their ideas
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and coming to a better conclusion. That's that's going to be, that's going to make everything in your life better.
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Yeah. Yeah. Just knowing that I think is the
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because you forget just like how you said like you're my even if because even if you do open your mind for a second, but okay, I'll have an open mind on this one. And then you accept the idea that close Rebecca, even if you accept the idea, as I all had an open mind except that idea even change my mind. Look how much
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Sure, look at my growth and then you just close your mind. Again. It's like a it's an ongoing campaign. You gotta kind of keep your mind open or be get in the habit of keeping it open. Well, what's crazy now is, you know, when you watch the divisiveness in the country people are
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people will get presented with quote
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facts. And here's the thing. They'll like those
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