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My First Million
Scott Galloway Tells All - $100M Net Worth, $4 Trillion Business Opp & Career Advice
Scott Galloway Tells All - $100M Net Worth, $4 Trillion Business Opp & Career Advice

Scott Galloway Tells All - $100M Net Worth, $4 Trillion Business Opp & Career Advice

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My First Million, Scott Galloway, Shaan Puri, Sam Parr
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Oct 24, 2023
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I look at this category and how much money is in this category and it's gonna happen. It's just there's never been a business. There's never been a carcass. So tempting, so bloated swimming. So slowly, I feel like I can rule the world. I know I could be what I want to are. We just ask Scott Galloway if he was 25 years old again, what businesses would he start? Because this guy started, I think nine businesses.
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Sold one for over 100 million dollars. And we said, if you were 25, what would you do? What are the ideas? The opportunities, the transit you would take advantage of and he gave us two answers. He said, if you had no degree, no college degree, no fancy education. He would do this. And he said, if I had a fancy degree instead I would do this other thing. Very cool to hear kind of where his head's at the small opportunities and the big one, what he called the the multitrillion-dollar carcass that he can't believe nobody has has disrupted yet. And on top of that, we add
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About his finances. We talked about when he sold his companies and made his first few million bucks and then tens of millions of dollars all the way up to what have we got over a hundred million dollars, how he lost it along the way. And what were the key moments that allowed him to reach those Heights with his, with his own finances. You know, I've seen probably 100 interviews with Scott Galloway and I never heard him, reveal these numbers or talk about this so openly in fact at one point he goes, I'm naked here. I'm naked here guys, you got to tell me something. And
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so very, very good interview
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with Scott Galloway, enjoy. But you know,
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Welcome to the Pod. I've been, I've been listening to you for a very long time. I was a fan of yours starting. I think with L to the No Mercy, No Malice videos and the reason I've liked you is I find myself. You might be 15 or 20 years older than me, but I find myself looking up to you because I think we have a lot of very similar characteristics, which are erectile dysfunction,
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not yet anger, depression.
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I have hair but you're pretty buff. You might be buffered than me. I'll admire you for that. Thanks for that. Like you like to post shirtless pics and I like you for that I do. But you're very hard to Peg down politically your kind of like all over the map when it comes to that you also you have beautiful language. I'm a big fan of beautiful language. You've got beautiful language, you're better than I am. But I look so I look up to you for that. And you started a bunch of really amazing businesses, but you're kind of known like I've told
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We did this episode where we talked about your personal finances, where you talked about spending two to four hundred thousand a month and people are like, I don't know, Scott was so rich and I was like, no, he created a bunch of really big companies, but you're more famous for being like, Scott, Galloway the brand and I think that that's pretty cool. And so you've done a bunch of really interesting stuff.
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This is the whole episode by the way, it's just Sam complimentary. It's like a reverse roast actually. So you just sit there and you just get compliments at the end of the hour, you know? You feel good that that that's what.
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Happens here. Yeah, so far I just let me say, I'm really enjoying this. It's like a verbal massage. This is this works from a anyways. Go on going south. Well
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like I could read these sentences that I'm like that's a beautiful line. I love that shit. I just love how he's coming up with that stuff. But yeah, I mean I think it's like I think it's really good. And what's crazy is you've had a better career as a business person.
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Obviously, the key to my success is
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Rejection. And that is, I've had a lot of the marketplace businesses Capital providers. Women have provided a great deal of rejection for me. And my skill is my ability to endure that and move on and not let lose my sense of enthusiasm, I've, you know, the ability to mourn and move on as key. And the wonderful thing about America is that we don't Embrace failure, that's bullshit. But we tolerate it and I know so many really successful people who are very successful
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Oil. And then they do something on their own or they do something and it doesn't work for them and they get stuck. They just lose their Mojo and they can't get past it. They can handle the bullet to the, to the chest, or the Bullet, to the arm, becomes an opportunistic infection. It starts damaging everything about them. And I've, that's my only skill, I'm obsessed, you know, I'm really into my dog's, I started an e-commerce company. I want to be the William Sonoma pet supplies. I put a million bucks, my own money, and I sold it for like a million and a half.
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Made some money. Not a lot. I invested or I started another e-commerce company. I started to travel side sold that for a little bit of money. You know, I've had a lot of kind of and then I've had things where I, you know, I ran into a, you know, drove into a wall at 200 miles per hour. I started coming to Red Envelope which went public on the NASDAQ in 2002 and because I was young and dumb, I kept investing and then I got in a war with the board and I did a proxy fight. I took over the board and put more of my money.
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Me in. And then 2008 came and was a longshoreman strike and a software malfunction at the warehouse where we sent 10,000 gifts to the wrong addresses. The holiday isn't a Wells, Fargo analyst, who was like, 14 decided, the credit crisis are coming and pulled out a line. And my stock went from seven bucks this year. 20 in about 11 days and when the company had declared chapter 11 and I lost, you know, I lost pretty much everything. You remember how much money when you felt that Tipping Point where you did feel financially secure not like bulletproof or nothing will ever
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Will happen. But do you remember the inflection point where you're like, okay, this feels different than I've felt on the climb. I still don't know. I still haven't hit that point. I'm still very anxious about money. You know, I had and I like to be very open about money because I think that not talking about money is basically a decorum that is promoted by the incumbents in the wealthy. Such that you don't understand how much money wealthy people have to keep poor and middle class people under the illusion that oh,
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Oh, you should be paying forty five percent taxes. While I'm paying 17 and I think, I think it's important to be very, I think it's helpful to be transparent and I talked about how many much money I've lost all my investments. How much money? I've gained my tax rates, Etc, but the the, you know, I'm I'm still, I'm not obsessed with money. I think about it all the time. I'm trying to get a lot more. I'm, I'm giving it away. Five years from five years ago. I
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I decided I was going to give away every dollar I made in current income because I want to start catching up to the non philanthropic Scott for the first 45 years of his life but I'm still trying to make a shit ton of money. I still feel financially very insecure, I still worry about a recession becoming a depression and I'm the guy who lost it again. I've lost it all a couple times and so I don't feel I'm at that point where I don't have Financial anxiety, I do sleep with one eye, open the big
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Did you know, I sold my first company for 28 million bucks. By the time I split it with my ex and my partner in taxes. I ended up with a few million dollars, Red Envelope. I got a few million there, but I always seem to figure out a way to lose it, but I was able to start again because I never had Dad. I've always lived below my means. But I would say the big win was probably selling L2. And I like that. Oh, wow, I can buy a plane like that was not in my reach.
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Before. So, that was kind of the big one. That was like, all the moon's long
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as the price. What itself or 200 300 million
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dollars? No, it's altar, 158 million. But we'd only done one round of venture capital so that, you know, the common shareholders, you know, I was the largest Equity owner. So the top, you know, between me and the top six employees, we probably on 70% of it. So that was that, you know, that was a lot of money for me. I never had that kind of money before.
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I'd always done well but I'd never had that kind of that kind of capital. And then getting to invest that in the midst of a bull market we sold in 2017, you know, I've made more money investing actually that I made for my small for my businesses and I'm I got a book coming out of March about financial trying to develop a national security and the ability to create an army of capital, even if it's only 50 bucks a month or a hundred bucks a month, put it in a tax-deferred or
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Exhibition vehicle diversify and then let time take over against the above. You don't know how fast time is going to go? That's where I've built real wealth
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mean this doesn't. This doesn't make sense for Shawn because Sean is not worried about money at all. He's got this thing that I like to call, like good emotional health, he's very emotionally healthy. Is his parents did, did am well and he's talked to me about this. I sold my company two or three years ago and I made a fair bit another to
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makeable shot. I'm like, I'm naked.
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Or what did you make? Yeah, let's go, let's go. See you gotta say is hesitant, he's hesitant because he's working on. Okay, go ahead.
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At the end of the process, I walked away with about 20 million dollars
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that and how old are you?
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I was about 30. I was 31 or 32,
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so you should be extraordinary, you should be unless you really screw up, you should be much wealthier than I am by my age because to get
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that stuff but I still, I still feel shitty, I feel the same. Like I still like I felt awesome for a minute and then I felt shitty where I was like like when I see these world events right now, when I saw like whatever happens every six months, I'm like the world's going to end and I do like 1/8, I'm boring. Sean makes fun of me. I do 80/20 in.
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Acts in bonds, that's the only also see
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exactly what you should be doing
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right now. I think so. And I, and then I own HubSpot stockstill. And then I own Airbnb stock. That's basically, basically my portfolio and Sean makes fun of me. He's like, how are you feeling insecure? And I'm like, dude, I'm broken, like, I'm broken. Like I said, it doesn't matter how much therapy I go to. I'm just a, I'm a broke. Everybody comes to money. I have a scarcity mindset and I'm broken. Yeah, I'm a semi it would, you talk about how you're worth, you know, 100 million plus and you don't feel secure. It showed said,
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He's like, what a little bitch like, you know, like I think I'm happy to talk about masculinity man up. You know what I mean? Like, it's and I have the same thing. I'm like, I can't talk. I'll give him
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week by the only thing I would say, is just, if you both you guys, obviously super smart guys, and, you know, it's sort of irrational that you're feeling that way and I guess the question I would have Scott is like, like, you know, you actually are financially secure now. Like it would take, it would take a lot for you to get to the point where
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you're not able to
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Under lifestyle or provide for your family,
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whatever, and this at this point. So, you know that that anxiety is somewhat irrational and you're a very smart guy and you clearly like done the self
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development work in a bunch of other areas of your life. I'm just
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surprised that I like I can't tell. Is it just one of these like virtue signal things where you're like, hey guys, I'm just, I'm still like you, I'm still, I still
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sweat it and
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I'm like oh is that what these guys are doing? They're just trying to relate to the Common Man or are you actually just not
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Like fixing that irrational part of your brain and just being like, you know, working on that like getting it getting it, right, which one is? Yeah. So first off to neuroses is real. It's not a, it's not a humble brag, it's part of a brag, but it's not a humble bright. It's the Neurosis is real, but it's also it's also a feature as well as a bug because I'm all over the people managing my money. I know where my money is, I think a lot about diversifying.
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Lying Sam, what you're doing exactly what you should be doing, because you're not looking to get, you're looking to get richer but more than anything you're looking to knock out poor and the mistake I made your age. When I had some wins was I would double down and I would start another company. Put all my money into one thing like you're quite frankly you should be selling down your Airbnb and your HubSpot stock and just letting you don't need the needle in a haystack, you just need to buy the whole Haystack because you've got enough capital. I have a price Target like
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I have like a
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Over where I'm like, when we get to around this, we're going to will get out of
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those. Yeah. But I would a doctor, I'm a larger conversation, but Sean tear. I think about financial insecurity a lot. It is still very possible, you know, there's been periods and economic history, where if you're invested and, you know, you can lose most or all of it. I put a little bit of pressure on myself because in this is virtue or signaling. I give a lot of money away.
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So but yeah I don't and also I have a really nice lifestyle but no, they insecurity is still there. I was I was always financially insecure growing up and I just don't know if that goes away but I think some of it is a good thing. I have my eye on stuff, I think about it a lot and it's like, if you want to be good at money, you want to be good at anything, going to be good at tennis if you want to be good at stamp collecting, you need to think about it. A lot, it doesn't, you know, Roger
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Thanks about tennis a lot, a lot. And if you want to be good at money, I think you have to have a certain amount of financial literacy. You have to understand interest rates, you have to be thinking, wait, when my mortgage roles in 14 months, is it going to go from Two and a quarter percent to 7 percent? Oh, wait, it is, does that mean I should be thinking about selling it paying off my mortgage? You just if you want to be wealthy unless you're extraordinarily talented at something.
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I mean, extraordinary talented and also can live below, your means and most extraordinarily talented. People have a tough time, living below their means. It's not how much you make its, how much, you know, you spend in your ability to create a Delta. So you always save below live below. Your means. Yeah, the insecurity is real, it really? I still am very fearful of being broke. I don't, I don't want to go back there. And now I'm getting to an age, right? I I don't have that much time to make it back, so no, the
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Insecurities insecurities
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Israel. What helps is that you have cash flow now. Like a lot of startup people you're poor, you're poor, you're poor and then you pour for seven years. Then you maybe hopefully have an exit then you get a windfall and then it feels good for a little while and you're like but there's there's no more income what changed for me. Because this podcast and Sean this podcast has done well is and a few other things we have got going on in our life. We actually have regular really great catch.
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Cash flow. You have the same that has made me. Feel better is like getting checks every month and like seeing the balance go up on a consistent basis, the cash flow like there's a difference between entrepreneurs I found between who sell and just make windfalls versus who have a business that they fully owned and they're able to take out income every quarter or every year and having that cash flow definitely makes me feel better. Oh
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no. Doubt you always want to be making money and also it keeps you in shape being subject to trying to make as much money as you spend our
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Any more at any age keeps you in the market, you have to, you have to understand what the market values and doesn't value. It keeps you. It's how I think it keeps me that an exercise keeps me is hopefully going to keep me sort of young and that is
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Understanding how how to, how to create something in the marketplace, whether it's a podcast, or a book, or a talk, for me, that people are willing to pay for Keeps Me In the game, it keeps me in the ring. It keeps me in shape, so I think it's really important to. And also you're right it does, if you let the end of the year, no. Okay. If my, even if my investments are down 20 or 30%, which they were last year, I'm still making on, you know, almost as much or more.
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And I spend that's that you do get huge comfort, and peace from that. Hey guys, let's take a quick 30 second break to tell you about another HubSpot podcast Network show called The Hustle Daily Show. You know, every weekday, there's a team of writers of the hustle that break down the biggest news stories to headlines in 10 minutes or less. They'll tell you why you should care about them and it's funny. It's a reverent and it's just touches on everything from business culture news and Tech. You know, they also do deep, Dives on topics, like, why this man won the lottery, 14 X or Y? It's nearly impossible to buy an original Bob, Ross painting or how Taylor.
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To do it, but we like to talk about Trends opportunities business, what business would you be starting? Or do you see as something people could start now, right? Like, if you go on to go on hot ones, you eat hot wings, if you come on, MFM you talk about ideas and opportunities. That's sort of the stick. In fact, we almost cancelled this podcast because we didn't know if you were prepped and ready with that, but Sam said, no, no, he's going to be, he's good, he's good off the cuff, you'll be ready. What opportunities are ideas? Do you see today that either?
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You know, you're tempted to do or you say no, I'm out of the game, but if I was 25 again, this is what I would be running at. This is what I will be working on. This is a problem that I think somebody could go solve. What do you see out there today?
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So, first of all, a lot of it is situational, right? Someone coming out of someone with a degree from an elite University, who has the abilities parents will support them and doesn't have a high burn and maybe a partner that works. You know, it's just a lot of it's situational. I don't like it. I'm never like this hustle culture where people say go offer to carry Jeff Bezos bags or have coffee because some if you're a single mother that's just not an option for you so some of its situational. So I'll go through a few situations.
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Options. If I'm a young man or woman and I haven't had the opportunity to get credentialed. I don't have a traditional four-year college degree, much lesser college should be formally institution. I think they're going to be a lot of businesses, whether it's carpet, cleaning or gas stations or, you know, hanging and selling draperies into small, Furniture companies that are owned by Boomers. They're going to need transition nice small businesses and these individuals.
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Liquidity events and they're just aging out of the business. They don't, you know, they're hitting their 60s and 70s and they don't want to be calling on.
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Car washes to sell in, you know, their product or whatever it is. And these are businesses doing between half a million and 10 million a year that have no succession strategy. Because if they made money, their kids don't want to be in this type of business because their kid went to Emory and wants to go to work at Google and I would try and find be really Scrappy about getting into a business. Understanding it trying to find people who own it and figure out a way to buy it. Using that person's capital.
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Approach, somebody and say, I want to take over your business, I'm going to buy it slowly over five years and then I'm going to give you a coupon so you can retire. If I'm a credentialed person, if I have a degree unfortunate enough, I would go to work for a big platform. I think we live in an era of it. We're antitrust is no longer in effect. So the big companies, if you were to divide the stock market and to deciles the 10, the companies with the largest market cap over the last 30 years of outperform, the bottom 9 by huge Factor.
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So going to work for a big company is vastly underrated, they can abuse their Monopoly position, it will have that mole removed, you will get rich slowly working at Google or it Mackenzie. So, if you're credentialed, you know, we over romanticize entrepreneurship if you have the ability to get into the greatest wealth creating vehicle in history and that is the u.s. corporation do it. But they have security at the front saying, do you have a degree from an elite college? But if you do absolutely go to work for a big multinational,
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Conglomerate if you're an entrepreneur, I think that the and credentialed and can raise money. I would say that the intersection between Ai and Health Care. The most disruptive business in the world, is US Healthcare three-and-a-half. To four trillion dollars for out of feet. Five, people aren't happy with it. It's cost of outpaced inflation for the last 40 years. Meaning it's got the biggest chin in the world and I think the fists of stone coming for it, R is artificial. Intelligence where we can take Healthcare.
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From a defensive base industry to offensive. I give my grocery receipts, my workout routine, My Health Care, records, my sleep patterns to company, that figures it all out, and then gives me 4 scripted goes on offense Pro active lifestyle, Grocery and exercise recommendations. And I think there's just going to be a ton of Niche businesses and Health Care, their leverage, some
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form of AI.
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Are there any out there that you like?
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Yeah, I'm an investor in a company called 98.6. It does text based Healthcare. It's a private company. So, we sell in to be to be a big, you know, Sam's and Sam's offers for three dollars a month, every employee, or we charging. Three bucks for my inability to text somebody in the day. I says, okay, that's it's a rash. We're getting a dermatologist on the line. They look at the rash using a smartphone and say this is fine. I'm sending you a cream hit.
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In. Or with this needs a prescription, we're hitting the pharmacy. And by the way, that that investment I've written down by 80%, it's been really hard. I've lost money so far on that. So I don't want to pretend that this is all easy but I would say if I were young and had intellectual Capital credentialing, I would go into something around Ai and Healthcare and then
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men will like that, shocks me that you said that, say that because when I look at, I've done a few Healthcare things and I look at like the landscape, it seems like impossible to like it just there seems
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There's a shit ton of Regulation figuring out insurance companies. Seems like the hardest thing there is and even though everyone is frustrated about their setup, this seems like a like a very challenging space to crack into, and of course there's there's huge rewards if you can pull it off but it seemed very very challenging.
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I just look at this. I look at this category and how much money is in this category.
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And it's going to happen. It's just there's never been a business. There's never been a carcass. So tempting, so bloated swimming. So slowly as USB as Healthcare, we spent thirteen thousand dollars per person. But we die earlier and were obese, and were more depressed. The UK spends six and a half, though. How can the UK and Australia, be living longer and spending half? What we in the u.s. spent on Healthcare, that's just a mother of all chins. It's theirs.
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And to be disruption there, and I'd want to get in the way of that. The other thing I'm really excited about and I think it's the most underhyped. I just did a blog post on this. I think glp-1 is bigger than GPT for what's
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glp-1, owes a queer. Go to hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I've tested semi glute a ton. It's amazing. Like I think there's like so many crazy implications on what it could do. Like I think I think it could. I've been saying this, I don't know shit by the way other than my
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Stood it and I had drinking problems in the past. I think it could like some help solve alcoholism, I think there's so many crazy things. There was this guy on Twitter, our buddy from CB insights. Was like, what did he say? Did he say that food companies are going to lose money? Because people are eating less, and he said, airline companies going to make more money because people weigh less. He's like, that's how big of a deal. These drugs
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are, I was starting a hedge fund right now. I would have a fund that did nothing but go short food stocks, McDonald's. Nobody walks.
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Arby's looks around and thinks this was a good decision, no one ever thinks that. And if all of a sudden, I could get an injection or take a pill every week that help me make better decisions. Our instincts have not caught up to the institutional production of our economy. We drink too much. We eat any anytime. We're near Salt, Fat, or sugar, we Gorge because 499 again, 99% of our species history. We couldn't find these things.
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When mating, the majority of men have had almost no mating opportunities through history. A small minority of men have had all the mating opportunities and then you're presented with a reasonable facsimile of sex called porn. And there's a there's a decent segment of men out there who aren't working aren't getting out of the house because they're staying home and watching too much porn and they're also not engaging in relationships. We drink too much. I'm addicted to other people's affirmation. My kid is on Snap too much.
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This could be scaffolding. I mean, the weight-loss thing is, arguably, the biggest addressable Market in the world, 40% of America's obese. 70% is obese, and overweight. But even bigger than that, this could be the scaffolding on our instincts to update our instincts, to where they need to be within the industrial production that has gone exponential in the last 100 150 years with assembly line. Technology in the microprocessor and say, okay Scott you like th see too much you like out
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Alcohol way too much, you're too desperate for other people's affirmation and what people say about you on Twitter bums you out way too much. We're going to calibrate these glp-1 drugs, to help you moderate your Cravings. I mean, what these things do is they moderate your cravings. When your Cravings are getting the incorrect signals from 300,000 years of instinct on the savanna and everybody. I mean, they're finding out they're finding out people on those Epic.
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I think 60% less alcohol. They're biting their nails
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less.
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So the opportunity to update our instincts for the entire I mean the market I'm just I'm blown away by this thing. I think it could be just enormous and there isn't anybody that doesn't have that has instincts? That has a behavioral model that is that is driven by Instinct that is caught up to our world.
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I don't care who you are. Have you tried it? I haven't. But as you can tell, I'm ready. Yeah. She's really just injected me digitally. Just now with it, that was amazing. You know how much it costs a month about 1000 bucks a month, right?
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It's between five hundred a thousand dollars a month. When I was trying it was 500 a month out of pocket most insurance companies. And I think if you have diabetes, they actually only cover it. I think for a limited time but most people using it now are are
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Hang five hundred to a thousand dollars a month. And here's the crazy shit about this drug. You have to increase your dosage every week. So you start with a very small amount and every two weeks or so, you have to increase it like forever. Well, I don't know forever, but over a course of at least a year, you have to. So the like when I first started taking it I would I would test out just a little bit and it would make me a little bit. Sick to my stomach, you know, the downside of there's a few downsides, one is upset stomach, and then after about three weeks, I'm like, all right, I feel great. Let's let's increase it. And then,
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Now, at the end of six months, you're taking 10 times, you're basically on a syringe. You got to fill this thing up to 100 at first. You fill it up to 10 and over a year you have to increase it and so you have to pay more and more money. What could go wrong it?
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There's a lot of
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things that can go wrong with that. Like I've tested. It one downside is I actually don't know if you develop healthy, eating habits, you just eat less
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and you lose muscle,
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you lose muscle. There are definitely downsides to it. It's not a terribly new drug. Like
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I think that these types of things have been around for like 30 years. So there's some studies but like the as it's being prescribed now it's definitely new ish. So there are definitely going to be downsides, but it's super promising. Another one is metformin, which isn't in the same, which isn't in the same category entirely but it's still similar things. That's super interesting. I always think it's interesting when people, like Sam Altman, like these Geniuses, who like see everything, take it, and he's been like, this is the drug I take, I take metformin all the time, so that's super fascinating. So I agree. I think, I think these this class.
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Suffocation of drugs
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is quite. I mean, I was even thinking I'm trying to figure out the second order effects here and like those moderna stock go down 80% because the reality is see the pandemic, we the far right weaponized and politicized mass and vaccines and decided. Well, if you take them, it means your far left. So, if you're far ride, you don't want to take these things on the far left, we weaponized, and politicized obesity, we did want to acknowledge that 88% of mortalities had one comorbidity at.
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There was a obesity-related and we started with this Trope of. Oh, you're not obese. You're finding your truth. No, you're not. You're finding diabetes. There's nothing to celebrate here. And so we decided we didn't want have an open conversation about the fact that America is obese, 40% of them. The kids, you're more likely to commit suicide, kill obesity in children. It's terrible. You're much more likely to be depressed as an adult. Not go to college and become more likely to
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To kill yourself. I mean so what happens to modernist talk, if all of a sudden we drastically reduce if you drastically reduce obesity in America, you drastically reduce the vulnerability of the population to a Corona virus. So do you need moderna? I mean at some point the reality is a 25 year old who's thin. Yeah you get vaccinated for a variety of reasons but it's not it at some point it becomes
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Less obvious whether you need these vaccines when the society is healthy and not obese. I mean I'm just kind of Blown Away Hospital networks entire Hospital networks. Go out of business. If they're really on us the Milken institute's. That obesity related costs are one point seven trillion dollars a year. When you look at everything from knee Replacements to cardiac to cancers that are obesity-related. We're looking at one point seven trillion dollars a year. That's seven percent of our economy. So what?
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Happens when the entire economy gets a Costco, 27 percent. So I a I'd want to get kind of near Des technol. I think this technology is going to have a bigger impact on the real economy than AI. I think AI we've kind of had pki. I love it. I use it a lot but it's a little bit over hyped right now. We're definitely kind of, I would say, I think about a month ago, we hit pki in terms of from an investor standpoint. I would not want to be buying into AI companies right now as a
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Entrepreneur, I'd want to be raising money for an AI company. But I anyways, you asked me what I was excited about trying to find a baby boomer. The wants to sell a small business and do seller financing. If you're have certification, you're fortunate enough for whatever reason. You either have Rich parents or your freakishly remarkable and you ended up at Dartmouth, go to work for a big American company. We are there amazing. You'll get rich slowly, smart people. Great place to meet mentors. Great place to meet mates. You
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Justjust these companies are totally underrated in terms of their power and what they can do for you professionally and economically. If you're an entrepreneur or something around Healthcare and Ai and I think it from an investment standpoint, I just want to be near. I'm very excited about glp-1. As an emerging
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technology, we need to get you to start taking it. So we're going
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to have, have you not taken it because you're afraid of the side effects or if you're not taking it because you're like, I'm already cut out on need this.
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I'd like I think, I don't know this, but who who GOP wants should be who it should reach right now is poor and middle-income households that are obese. That's where the greatest societal benefit would be right now, who I think is probably driving the sales are rich people who want to lose the last 10 or 20 pounds, right? That's my gut. My God is it at the people taking it right now, the Hollywood drug hundred percent.
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Do I went to, I went to CVS the other day. I had to get like, the whooping cough vaccine, and I went to CVS, and I had to wait for an hour to get the vaccine five. People were in line. The fucking worst thing about CVS and Walgreens is they say out loud? Oh, are you here to pick up your Cymbalta? Like I say it like
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really loud. You don't like and I like the fuck
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five people had lied and it was all older people who looked like they had diabetes. Five people. They're like, oh, are you here for the example?
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Rick. And like they say, with the pricing is and they go. All right, I'll pay it. And at least people, it was like, the white New Balance crowd. It wasn't like a like, you know, like it was a Wrangler jeans crowd. This wasn't like a, like a high. They didn't I didn't stereotype of people as like, yuppies and they were swiping their card. This, jump
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up and yell chlamydia. Oh wait, you said something else.
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I hate that about that one. What
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they say like can you like can you shut the fuck up? Scott, this could be your philanthropy. Thank you.
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To be given away, glp-1 to the to the masses. That could be your moment that nobody's on that train. So you inspired us thought, like when I was 19, I had terrible, I had terrible acne growing up. It was a real source of it, enormous insecurity for me. And I was painfully thin, I look like Ichabod Crane with bad skin and it was just really, really painful and I was starting to get scars on my face because my acne was so bad and I start taking
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Good at taking Accutane and it was about the time I made the crew team at UCLA and I put on a bunch of weight in a bunch of muscle and my skin cleared up and it literally changed my life, it just changed my life. And not only because, you know, I was people were more attracted to me and I started having sex, which was a wonderful thing in my life. But I just feel so much better about myself and still to this day and it's probably an appropriate was at a gas station in the gas attendant, had this terrible act and I might take
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Says you want. I don't mean to offend you, but if you heard you know, there's there's there's great drugs for this. So I'm out there basically trying to prescribe as not as an unlicensed doctor, but I didn't want made me think of that. But this drug that drug literally, I found the guy who invented it, this guy who sold the patent of hoffman-laroche and I tried to write him a letter and they're like, well, he's dead but we appreciate the letter, anyways. Anyways,
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No, I haven't taken it. I haven't taken it. I do take, I do take creatine. I struggle with, you know, it's going to feel bad about this. I struggle with keeping weight on Creatine
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is all the rage right now said that, I've
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made a bunch of money and I just don't feel good and God is hard for me to put weight on. I just keep losing at me. You're two for two on on unlikable. Hate ya. Cry Me a River boss. Exact me a river. Yeah, I'm too rich and too thin.
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Yeah, Professor punch a hole in that. Professor bumper hate that guy? Well, you do get a lot of punches, there's the fuck that. What's it called? The inverse, the inverse ratio and Galloway index. What do you think about that? That's pretty good. I like
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that. Yeah. And the craziest call was the Macy's. The Macy's call that was a
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well-known apologize in advance but I'm going to sound defensive to Macy's call was I said that multi-channel, I said that about 10 years ago in Germany to talk.
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And I said that multi-channel retail was the future of marketing and that Macy's who had a great website and stores. I said that was the future. And and the same talk. I said, I believe Amazon will buy stores and I said, I think Amazon will by Whole Foods but my detractors don't take that clip. They take the clip when I said the future looks more like Macy's, the anti Gallery, Tia or index. It's a bit cherry-picked because
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I know my pics and they've actually done pretty well but the reality is
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the gout the the index says, since October, 4th, 2019 tech companies that the professor has predicted would fail have outperformed, the S&P and seen a whopping 61 percent return. Even excluding Tesla was a published, and I don't know
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because I think I were one, I picked, I picked some companies that would lose that Skyrocket. It
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Great Tesla. But I think someone who tracks it as of last year. The end of last year because a lot of those stocks got hammered. It was it was it was up again but I want to be clear, I get it, I get it wrong all the time and someone who makes predictions like me should be held accountable. What I find though is that the nth people stop tracking the index when it's there's no longer a story there. When I mean, this is what I found.
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When I talk about when I say that, I think that Tesla is overvalued. I think you're right. Last updated on one of these, the inverse gallery and x.com last updated to 28 2022, which is I no one's interested because the narratives, I want Morgan started to turn. Yeah, because, quite frankly, the index is probably over performing right now and no one's interested in that. Because the people who invented the index, what I find General, especially on Twitter is when I am
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Teaching about a company or cryptocurrency, the people who are along that start engaging in, not only professionalist at assassination of character assassination, whenever someone really comes after me. I'm like, they must be an investor and one of the companies I have been critical of, I would say, don't never get in between a venture capitalist and there s million because they will take to Twitter and call you a plagiarist or accused you of having done, terrible things at NYU, which you've never ever been accused of much less.
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People have people found you, guilty of what did they accuse? You of? I'm not even going to go there. I haven't accused of everything
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like Behavior stuff or just getting picks wrong.
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Oh, I know. It gets really ugly. And then you click on the Twitter account. It's a picture of a dog and there's no, it's an anonymous account. If I think that there are Venture capitalists, you know, fairly well, who, when I'm when I'm saying this company, this cryptocurrency, this coin, the underlying technology, there is no underlying technology and they are funding.
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With their brand name such that they can dump it because they don't have to disclose their sales, and they hire a PR agency that creates 10,000 Bots and then creates a list of people who don't think come rocket is going to replace the dollar here. I've
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got a good shirt that you can wear for for when you're having those
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conversations, but there's four versions. Now, I would say. Yeah, no, it's for people. Yeah, that's right. It means I've never kissed a girl anyways. But what I have found is and I wasn't used to getting attack like that and
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Every time I tried to, you know, I hired a firm to unmask some of the people who were attacking me was clearly like the same language. I'm like, they're using fake accounts. And it was almost always someone who had a large financial position and the company that I said was overvalued, but look at the end of the day, I should be held accountable, and when I get it wrong, you know, I'll have several million people on Twitter pointed out, but as somebody who is very close to his own stock picks, yeah, things have kind of worked out over here. Wait, wait, you hired a firm?
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To figure out who's behind these two, her accounts. I think it's. So I think it's political, I've been very critical of Putin
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And I'm fairly. And I know this sounds paranoid but doesn't mean I'm wrong. If I were Putin, I would hire. I would spend a small amount of money. I'm spending a hundred billion dollars a year in Ukraine and 100,000 Lives. Why wouldn't I take 5% of that are five billion dollars? And take some very bright scientists and do a i generated a/b testing and create a list of my five seven. Ten thousand biggest detractors who are pro Ukraine and start slowly but surely undermining their
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Already on social media platforms, that have a Merrill amoral management team who will cash my checks, and slowly, but surely start undermining their Authority. That's what I would do.
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Do you have any proof that anything like that has happened? Or is this
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just an eye comments? Go and it. Well, I tell you, that's
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how, you know, it's not that in itself is a hate crime. It could just be someone here,
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anytime. Anytime you say anything, you'll do it. Go on and talk about Ukraine and you're going to start to see a lot of people attacking
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You personally and professionally who are Anonymous and you could say, wow, it's just amazing that all of these Anonymous Bots seem to have decided to engage in character assassination because I consistently and pro-ukraine and would they be stupid not to do it.
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Because people don't look click on the profile. They just see the comment and it's always the same language. Professor Galloway.
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I don't know. It's like, what's the threshold of your? In my eyes? You're a big deal, but what's the threshold of your? A big deal to decision makers, who decide these things?
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It's all about public opinion. You can't win a war without public support. You can't lose on with public support. So the Putin the fastest Blue Line path.
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To victory in Ukraine, for Putin is the election of Donald Trump in my view and also trying to diminish or reduce public support for the war there. So wouldn't they be stupid to not have the gru? Identify the 10,000, most critical people, or biggest supporters of Ukraine and slowly but surely undermine their credibility, that's what I, why would they be stupid not to do that. Especially on platforms that will cash anybody's checks and as it relates to the fog of misinformation are fucking smoke machines
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Why on Earth would they not do that?
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No, I mean I think they should I was just giving you a hard time of like are you are you a big enough fish? Which that's what? That's, what I'm trying to figure out.
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Well, I might be 20,000 out of a list of twenty thousand people, but I think I've made the list and I go on actually they're like Forbes, 30, under 30 bullshit, Putin's 10,000 under 10,000. That's the list festival list of influence. Right? Here you go on Face the Nation and say this is the best investment in the history of the West unifying for the
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I'm Europe is a union, we've taken NATO out of the brain coma, we push back on a murderous fascist, 90 years ago, this is a wonderful moment for the West. It's 10% of our military, but this is the best investment we ever made. Well, I think that qualifies me to get on the list. That's
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what, uh, what are you enjoying being Scott Galloway? The brand more than being Scott Galloway. Founder of, like a, are you enjoying it more than being an operator of companies, or
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You enjoying. I mean you have some cool blog post or your. Like when people say hi to me in the streets, I love it. It makes me feel great or which one are you enjoying more Scott, Galloway? The brand or Scott Galloway the business person?
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Oh, on the whole, this is really wonderful. I mean people come up to me and are super nice and you know, I'm at that age. I have 13 and 6 year old boy, so everything I do is just like, tragically uncool in their eyes. They don't really seem to like me a great deal. So when someone comes up to me, it happened yesterday and like wants a
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With me and they're excited to meet me in front of my boys to be honest. It just feels really nice and people, generally speaking are just so nice and they come up and I get to meet new people. Yeah, it's awesome. And it feels very gratifying. I'm also we talked about addictions, I'm addicted to affirmation from strangers. It's sort of pathetic, but I at least know it so I can modulate it and it's really wonderful. People are really friendly and really nice. You know, I went to the Arsenal game with my boys and a bunch of
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People came out to me and said hi. And I was at the Taylor Swift conference because concert and the six-year-old girl had made me a bracelet and came up and gave me a break. I mean I just said like I have all these wonderful moments with strangers so it's wonderful. I do think there is an algorithm for happiness though. A pretty good one and that is to be rich but anonymous because at some point I'm going to become the villain and some of the things you talked about before there's an entire industry in America around building people up. And then tearing them down
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And so I wonder when my story turns to the villain because, you know at some point I'll probably fuck up and say something really stupid and then why am people will weigh in. But for the time being oh that's wonderful. People are night. I just it's so rewarding, really
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rewarding. We're we're coming up on the on our time but I had one one. Last question I saw you talk, I've seen you talked a few times and I've watched your stuff on YouTube, the difference between your talks and most everyone's talks is
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You kind of break a bunch of the rules. So you have like 150 slides, each slide has lots of information on it and you talk super fast. You've got a really beautiful Rhythm the. It's I say fast but that's in a good way. What is the process of like, coming up with one of these talks? Because you're taksim way? More lucrative, like one of your talks would be like maybe a big blog post that I wrote or that I would write and I imagine having like a talk is significantly more lucrative and probably way more.
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Fun, you could travel all over the world and deliver them. What's a what's that process of like to start with the headline? And you like let me go find data you find a data point and you're like I'm going to build something around
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this. Yeah. So speaking is the most lucrative business I've ever been and I had 340 inbound requests for speaking. I accepted 30 of them. I average a hundred twelve thousand dollars per speaking engagement.
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And my attitude is someone's going to pay me a hundred twelve thousand dollars. I can't just show up and be charming and interesting and like, a me on stage. I've got to bring something really unique and so I will spend the better part of three months with a team of analysts at prop G trying to come up with themes and data and slides and humor and video clips and then choreograph it and practice it over and over and then test it.
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And try and make it something where you go, okay? When we just like a comedian, well, humor is a great way to lower people's defenses. Such at they'll be open to new ideas. And so when I say things that are provocative or I'm asking them to think something different humor is a fantastic way to soften the beach for new
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ideas, but you're testing your like, you know, before you get the Netflix show, you're like testing it on the on the, on the small. Yeah.
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But if I'm at, if I'm a MasterCard, they're spending me 100. You know they're spending a hundred fifty thousand bucks to have me.
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Big for an hour and Barcelona which I did last week, you can't just show up and be Scott Galloway. I've got to be a guy who represent gets finds his incredibly smart people to pull data together and they do a great job and my design team and greatness is in the agency of others. So but it's a ton of fun. I get to go to interesting places. I get to pick the most interesting cool ones, and it's a nice, and I have an impact. I talked a lot about struggling young men, which is really something I'm passionate about. And I was really
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awarding. I feel like I'm having a difference. I get to go to cool places, so I kind of feel like it's my Victory lap right now. I get to just sort of run around and you know, but I'm but if someone's going to pay that kind of money, just can't show up and just start talking and, you know, bunch of War stories about how awesome you are. You got to show up with real inside or something. That's going to catalyze a conversation with data. They haven't seen before back to the drawing board for me than I thought. That's a thought. What I was doing is showed up and give him
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Of a Victory lap,
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dude. Have you seen one of his talks? Like, every slide has like a data point? That is quite good and a story behind it and I'm like, dude, just finding this data is, it's a
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job. You're an excellent performer spiracle, a speaker and like Sam said, you're very lyrical. We enjoy we, enjoy what you do. I think you're really great at what you do. I don't how you were as an entrepreneur but like I can't, I feel like this is what you were meant to do, is to be smart and then package that up and
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Form that because you can't educate without entertaining and you do a great job of both. Thanks for coming on, we really appreciate it. Thank you guys. Congrats on your
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success. Yeah, thank you. We thank you and II. Think our pods are going back and forth sometimes in the chart so I look forward to kicking your ass. I will bury
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you
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see you in the trenches. Thanks man, we appreciate Scott Galloway. Thanks again guys, that's the
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pod.
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I feel like I can rule the world. I know I could be what I want to put my all in it. Like all Days on the Road, Less Traveled never looking back.
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