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Hey everybody. Welcome to Hell Theory. Today's guest is Naomi Whittle known as the Indiana Jones of Wellness. She's the founder of reserve of age which was at one point the fastest growing midsize company in the nutritional supplement industry. She's also the former CEO of twin lab, and now the founder of Simply good fats. Additionally. She's the New York Times bestselling author of glow 15 a science-based plan to lose weight Revitalize your skin and most intriguingly invigorate your life. So basically reading your book I was like, all right, this is essentially the Fountain of Youth in the real world, which I love talk to me about the foundations of Youth. What can we really be doing right now to feel younger look younger. What are the
keys? I think that it's about really allowing our body to do what it naturally wants to do and we live in an unnatural world, right? There's so much pollution. There's so much contamination in the soil we
We struggle every day just to sort of ward off the challenges that is our environment. And most of our health is affected by what we can't see right? So it's the pollution that's in the air that were breathing inside of our house. It could be what's in the insulation. I mean, there's so many factors and for me, I was born in Switzerland. I was literally born on a biodynamic farm. So that's like organic on steroids and they were obsessed with keeping me healthy. Like they would move my stroller in my pram like away from the street. So I wouldn't breathe in fumes and it's weird because I had I was born with autoimmune disorders. So I had already a struggle when I was first born and what was my biggest struggle was I was unable to sort of process a lot of the contaminants that I would be bringing into my body. So I knew intuitively at a young age that I needed to help my body sort of like detox. I didn't sweat much
Couldn't really eliminate a lot of what was building up and it created this fire and inflammation and I was covered in X Seema it made me pay attention to things that like most kids wouldn't I always wore clothing where you could never see my skin and yet it's still totally screwed with my life. I was always feeling unattractive. It would bleed. It would pause. It was very ugly. So I was like, I'm dealing with this ugliness that hurts me like it physically hurts and yet I know that the organic food that I'm eating the ways the products. I'm putting on my body have to be such that they don't inflame it. And so I was always sort of chasing what would give me that sense of energy because I had so much desire inside of myself to sort of reach for whatever. It was. Like I was six years old when I ran away from home and I did it for the first time it wasn't because my parents were
Like mean or hurting me or anything. It was just this intense curiosity. I wanted to see what was out there and I didn't want to be inhibited by my biology really I was in my mid-20s when I first went to Okinawa, I didn't go to Okinawa because you know, it's a beautiful part a beautiful island off of Japan. I went there because there are a large group of centenarians there more than as a proportional basis than other parts of the world and I knew that I couldn't just read a book to sort of discover. What was there I had to go and touch and feel and see with my own eyes. And when I got to Okinawa, I learned some really interesting things. I learned that when I ordered a salad it wasn't like the lettuce that we eat on our solids. It was filled with these like super herb Rich nutrients that I had never experienced before so I was eating like all of this.
Parsley and all these different wild herds. I had never had before and that was their salad or that pork was a really big part of their diet and I didn't know that or that when you sit down with them, you know, they're going to joke and laugh three or four times more than we do and they're always on their bikes could be a 90 year old woman and she's biking around this constant like paleo movement in a way, right? Like we've taken sort of our diets back to where they used to be in many ways. And now there's an opportunity for us to do that with movement and exercise and I learned about creating youth inside of my body through these different cultures these different people and that's to me the keys. So the keys I would say our this etapa G, which we'll talk about at all Fuji is in Greek. It means Auto self FEI jie to eat so itself cannibalization. That's number one and I think
Number two is just embracing that Joy whatever that means for you for me, you know for us like we love to optimize and hack and find the best performance that we can experience in our life because that allows us to accomplish what it is we want so I think those two keys working with our own biology because our bodies have the answers like we know scientifically we can live to a hundred and twenty.
All right, so you talked a lot about okay, we've got pollutants and we've got things that you can avoid. You've got things that you can do. You've got die you've got exercise of this is whole universe of stuff and what I want to do hopefully in the next hour is really tease this stuff out into things that are hyper actionable. So great. If we were going to build our Fountain of Youth from scratch. So you've given us a couple of key ingredients. How do we avoid the tinfoil hat wearing sense of like trying to avoid all of the pollutants and everything?
Because I know part of your story of curing the XML you found this Chinese herb you ate it it actually really helped. It was very beneficial for your skin. But then later when you were trying to get pregnant you realize that you would ingest it a lot of heavy metal toxins. Yeah. So now you take the soil very seriously and I thought oh my God, like if I had to go research where like everything is coming from I'd lose my mind. Yeah. So how do you like start making this simple for people?
I think it's it's it is complicated and I hate saying that right I want to tell us all like it's it there's a simple way of doing it at the end of the day if we can find a couple of you know foods from our Farmers Market that's grown locally that can nourish us from like a functional food perspective. And then when you're there maybe there are a couple of one to three different stands that are organic and once you tap into those they can become your friends. I mean like these are the people that are nourishing you
All right, so I try to buy 80% as much as we can we buy from the farmers market and we're friends with the people at the farmers market so that to me if they're organic that's a great place to start and then when you can optimize it by really focusing on like the super herbes cilantro parsley Rosemary, I mean any of what makes it super important? They're like, it's like a superfood. So an avocado is a superfood. These are super herbes because they have such nutrient density and then using those as sort of like the foundation of what it is that you're eating. So pesto in my house is not a side condiment. It's not something I add in it's a base, right and there are so many different types of Pesto's. So that's one way to activate the youth inside of your
cells. Okay. So now are you getting into a tough edgy when you say acting
all of it everything that I'm speaking about has different effects, so if I'm going to talk about
A super herb. It's going to have a variety of different benefits to your
wealthy. So let's dive into those and so I'm taking in the herbs. What am I getting? Exactly?
So you're getting antioxidants. You're getting polyphenols.
Let's pause and polyphenols for a second. I think this is a big one you go deep into it in the book be grateful to understand exactly what those are. Okay, what they do for
us. So polyphenols are essentially like a supercharged antioxidants. So they have micro nutrients in them. So polyphenols are found in red wine. They're found in the grapes are found in the Skins. The seeds the stems. They're all over the place. But what they're so good at doing is really helping your body to repair from a lot of the damage the environmental damage and they fight off that damage. So in my book I call them. I have a series of them that are called Power phenols because not only do they protect us from all of that junk.
But they also help our body to truly repair itself, which is why I love them so much. So that's Resveratrol. You can have a good glass of wine. There's this crazy beautiful fruit in Calabria. Italy called the Citrus Bergamot food. It's like a combination of sort of a lemon and orange but it has tons of polyphenols tons of flavanols. So when you eat this fruit and I was taught to eat the white part the pith you're getting all of these flavanols and it's like jacking up your etapa G. So again, that's a great that's a great one green tea. So you'll drink I'm sure a ton of Masha and green tea when you're when you're in Japan and that's just filled with tons of polyphenols and it's so powerful. I mean you get them in coffee you get them in a lot of different places.
Okay. So we're getting our polyphenols are power phenols. How are we kicking off The Itachi mechanism. So you used a really simple clean.
G which is imagine you cook a meal and your kitchen and then you clean the kitchen up you take the trash out. It's all nice and clean. You should reset back to zero and that was how you explained. What a tapa G is yes, give us a little bit more about what's going on at the cellular level. Like what that looks like. We've talked about it a little bit in terms of fasting which is how I've always heard Lee you're the first person I've heard really go into there are other ways to kick you into that other than just and fasting. Yes, I'm should be really interesting to understand a bit more about what's happening at the cellular level and then how this stuff is kicking that off.
So for me it came out of necessity right? I was in my late 30s and I was on QVC all the time and I remember one day I was getting my makeup done. I was like, this is crazy. I feel like I just
Accelerated my aging overnight something happened and it's really weird because it's taking so much more time to sort of bring my gloves and my skin feels dull and I feel like doll energy-wise and this is not going to work for the amount of things that I want to do in my life and I think for every single one of us right, sometimes you can have this feeling of oh my God, I'm like held back by just sort of this toxic feeling inside and I became really passionate about this idea of what is it at the cellular level that will give me that energy back and I knew that my cells were either building like building up, you know through the protein in the different nutrients or they were detoxing and this is very much the Layman thought process. I was just thinking they're eliminating crap right like my cells are either building on themselves and they're replicating or they're eliminating.
Can maybe they're dying off but I didn't know that there was an actual biological process that occurred so fast forward to Italy. I'm in the orchard with This brilliant PhD. Dr. Elizabeth Janda and she opens up a citrus Bergamot fruit shows. The white gives it to me. I'm eating it we go back to our lab. We're drinking this tea all day long the Citrus tea, I'm like I love this T. But what's the deal? Like, I've never drank so much tea other than when I was in Japan where they were just drinking green tea three, four five cups a day and she was doing the same with the Citrus tea and just like, oh, it's my anti-aging secret and it activates Maya topology. What's that word and I started to learn from her. She explained to me that this process is something that we all have in every single one of our cells. It's almost like a little doctor.
Inside of each of your cells that says okay time to recycle this part these organelles need to be removed. This needs to be killed this needs to be strengthened. And so at Alpha G is like this Brilliance within our cells and there's so many ways to activate it and there are so many ways to deactivate it. You don't always want to keep it on right like it's kind of like the ocean back and forth. So she told me about it and I came back to the US and I was obsessed and I was on a mission and that was like five years ago and I knew when my when I looked at my skin and I saw that I had experienced these accelerated agers and I looked older than I was and I actually looked at a picture of my mother at 37 years old. I grabbed this photo of her and I looked at a picture of me and I looked so much older than she did.
Like this is really messed up. Like I know I put a lot more stress on myself, you know, I travel around the globe like on average eight times a year. Whoa. Yeah. I'm on the go. So I'm dealing with a lot of that. I have four kids, you know built I was running, you know, twin lab CEO of twin lab. I had sold my company to them public company. So all of these factors put stress but still I shouldn't have been looking that much older than my mother and so that's when I got into activating at off a g.
Okay, that's really interesting and let's sort of bring it down from the scientific for a second because so I heard you on bulletproof radio and Dave was talking about how I wow your skin really looks good in person. And so the second I saw you I was like, it's it really is fascinating seeing you up close like truly your skin is phenomenal. So now becomes a question of what do you doing on a daily basis? You've talked
You put on your skin or so I thought was super weird, but maybe want to go out and do it and you were talking about like coffee grounds and all kinds of crazy shit. So walk us through the things that you eat and then walk us through the things that you apply externally.
Okay? I consume tons of super herbes tons of power phenols. Okay, which is like cow and a lot of those things. I eat a ton of microgreens. So that's like broccoli sprouts and microgreens. Yes, so like Little Sprouts. So when you go to Japan, you should be taking sulfur - which comes from the broccoli sprout because it's an incredible a topology activator and detoxifier. So you're going to be in a very good mood is settlement. Yeah, you can take it in a supplement form. You can find it anywhere sulfur fin is it's really awesome. Okay. So I take those Foods those supplements. I personally really benefit from a ketogenic diet. It reduces the inflammation in my body. There's
Maybe what 15 or 20 percent of the population that does well on a low-fat carb Rich diet, but the rest of us just the better off, you know
very much put myself at Camp. Do you live in ketosis like your
realm of it? Yeah. I only got really into about a year and a half ago myself personally. I had maybe eight years ago one of my translator had cancer and so we put them on a ketogenic diet with his cancer and that was many years ago and that was based on Thomas safe reads work and one of my children my seven-year-old has suffered from seizures, so he's ketogenic. So he was ketogenic before I was and a year and a half ago. I was just like
I have to figure out how I myself my family my mother. I mean you spoke about metabolic disorders and you know metabolic syndrome and and and obesity and morbidly obese when we moved to this country. My mother developed metabolic syndrome and that has been the most one of the most painful things for me personally because I couldn't solve it for her. So a year and a half ago. I interviewed over 80 experts and I created a documentary called the real skinny on fat. It's a free documentary it's online and I got so inspired by these genius Minds that I went ketogenic and I haven't gone back. Wow.
So if I took your blood right now, ooh ballpark, where would you repeat owns read
probably like one to one point two and you stay there all the time. Yeah. I mean all fluctuate like, you know the biggest impact on our ketone.
Polls are usually it's usually our mindset, right?
Yes, go deeper on that. What do you mean
meditation so meditate? So if you're sympathetic if you're in a state of seeing the data system nervous system, but it's also related to mindset. So let's say on average you have sixty Three Sixty thousand thoughts in a day, right? If you are stressed and you're sympathetic and you're and you're feeling anxious and your cortisol levels are higher it can pop you out of ketosis quickly, which is super weird. So up regulating staying parasympathetic is something that's very important to me and then also managing my mind my mind set.
I was really interesting. I've never heard anybody say that before I am such a believer that the mind is terrifyingly powerful that I'm I'm very open to believing that so one I've suffered from anxiety just massively I won't say that I've noticed an impact from diet. So when
Go hardcore ketosis, which I do a few times a year. I'm always high fat essentially zero carb moderate protein, but a few times a year all go like deep into ketosis. I've never noticed any sort of correlation between whether I'm feeling anxious or stressed and my levels, but that's interesting just because I haven't paid attention. It's entirely possible that someone fluctuations. It's
real. I was on the phone with dr. Dominic D'Agostino. Yeah two days ago. He's published papers on anxiety and ketosis so there is real data proving that it can reduce anxiety and shift your
state. Okay, so that'll believe I just had heard that it actually affects your Ketone real. Yes, which is interesting. Okay, so you try to stay in a parasympathetic State yes to keep your ketones elevated.
Yes and not all the time. Right like there's a place where you want. You want to be sympathetic right? There are times you just don't
Want to be chronically in that?
Okay, so to bring that all together and then I want to keep going down the list. So obviously what we're eating really matters we touched on that a little bit staying in the parasympathetic. So what we'll call rest and digest yeah or what is often referred to as rest and digest you're doing meditation. You don't do a ton of exercise at least as far as IM chat
love. Yes. I hate exercise mean like there's that a now showing us that just twitching like if we were sitting here twitching that's the kind of movement that can really impact our health like it's crazy. You know, there's like any sort of micro moves using like once an hour doing little things when you look at all these different cultures and how they move exercises like a man-made activity and it's sort of like processed food.
That's a bold statement going to clip the shit out of that. Okay. So talk to me more about that. So if exercises like processed food
Meaning you can do too much too hard in ways that aren't beneficial.
It's unnatural in the ways that we've made it right. So we go to the gym we go to our gym, we do certain moves. I mean, I love to weight train. I'm weight training right now. Like I'm getting ready for the front cover of my next book and I'm ecstatic about that. But that's an unnatural process. So what we've done is we've taken out movement these everyday natural moves that really are good for our body and we've made it we've compartmentalised it in such a way that it's not necessarily giving us the bang for the buck.
So what's the sort of ultimate Fountain of Youth style workout?
I think it's different for every single person. So in my book we talk about resistance training and that could just be your own body weight. We also talked about interval training. So what I'm
Doing right now is a lot of weight training but it's not what I do. Normally I focus on strengthening my glutes because there's such important muscles that really sort of give that Cascade of energy throughout our body
specifically the glutes or the entire set of leg muscles
primarily the glutes because so many of us are quad dominant. So I really like to focus on that. I've been trained to do things like skipping. I do a lot of skipping backward forward. I like to be outside as much as possible and there's new data that shows us if you can be looking at water and outside when you're moving when you're exercising the benefits are so much greater for me. It could be very different than what's what's right for you and
I just find that the less we have like specific boundaries on on movement the better off we are in the more bodies really benefit from it.
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Do you have ways for people to judge? What's working? What's not working to notice the patterns because like usually people going to say well, how do you feel? Yes problem is you can be fatigued from doing a workout that three days from now actually would be very beneficial and you probably should stick with it. But because it made you so tired or major muscle sore. Like what do you tell people to pay attention to
I think it's about how you perform in your life. Like I have so much desire inside of my mind to do so many things in life to me is like every moment. I want that. I want to optimize every single hour. So I don't want the energy that's in my body to hold me back. So what I'm paying attention to is how long am I feeling good in the day? So I want to be able to have a 16 to 18 hour day, and I'm mostly paying attention to my thought.
So if I start to have negative thoughts I'm starting to beat myself up. But whatever it is. I'm like, oh that's fatigue going on because my state I'm not shifting it. I mean we talked about Tony Robbins, like I fell in love with him probably when I was a teenager and used his work to really guide me and I develop that ability to create State very very quickly. So if I can't maintain something about that, it's so interesting you
really go so seamlessly back and forth between what you eat how you exercise how you think I think that's really powerful and hopefully people are paying attention. That's exactly why I do a show on mindset and a show and health. That's just who you absolutely must do both talk to people about State change. I think this is so important.
The reason I can shift my mice ate. The reason I have the ability to do. What I want to do is because of my love for health. So my love for health is about really helping people.
Myself my family you anyone have a better version of their own life so they can reach their potential. Right and we can do that in so many different ways with different patterns and systems but it starts here. No question the thoughts the feelings the beliefs that we have our everything and then the food the movement all of the other stuff sort of supports that so talk to me. How
do you Wrangle in your own mindset? So one obviously is the awareness of oh, maybe I'm fatigued or something because I keep coming back to negative thoughts. But even that is a level of self-awareness to understand that the negative thoughts aren't necessarily driven by reality, which is where I think most people get. Yeah, if they think that negative thoughts are real and that's why they recur so much and so I should beat myself up over this because I really am a loser or whatever not realizing actually know there's these other triggers that cause that and that becomes something to be aware of in and of itself, but the negative thoughts related to something else.
So, okay, you catch yourself. You're in a negative spiral. What do you do?
So what I do is I change my physiology what I learned from Tony all those years ago, right? So I learned about NLP neuro-linguistic programming right words, you use matter the words we use matter our physiology our body the way we hold our body our breath all these things matter so much and for me.
I felt so badly about myself because I was covered in this fire this inflammation of X Sima and moving from another country and moving to the u.s. Although it was an English speaking country. I was like I am painfully truly painfully shy and so it was such a culture shock moving to this country. I went through so much that I had to just figure out like how I was going to get through the day and and live my life. And so I used quotes, you know, if you can dream it, then you can truly make it happen and I learned that my subconscious was everything. So if I could start working with my subconscious at a very young age, which I did through meditations that night I do it to this day then you guided meditation. I do got so I do guided meditations. I love it. I mean
Just every night I clean my brain.
Okay, that's a really interesting
way to say it. So and I'll even Loop that back as you use the cleaning analogy for a topology and now we sort of have the same thing happening in your mind, which is really interesting. It's a huge theme that Y is in the book, so let's ride at apogee horse a little bit more here, which I think is super super interesting. So this idea of cleaning things up of getting rid of the negative thoughts getting rid of the broken cells and getting back to a state of sort of Optimal Performance. So one thing we haven't talked about I know you talked about intermittent fasting you love to hear about that. Love to hear about your protein cycling. Love to hear about timing, right? How does all that work
together favorite topics so we can start with intermittent fasting. So for me, I've been fasting for 25 years and I've always been doing it for health reasons people fast for religious reasons all different reasons. I do it for help and it is to me my favorite tool in my toolbox. So I did tons of juice fast water fasts everything under the sun.
I started to get into intermittent fasting then loved it had so much more energy.
Okay, that's what is going to ask me. So you love it. Yeah, not eating sucks almost universally. Yeah. So what's the love part
the energy the mental focus like it just allowed me to benefit from my day by Twenty thirty percent more. So I that's what made me love it. And then the research has really blown up over the past couple of years around intermittent fasting and now we know so much more about it. And so if you can add two more hours where it becomes an 18-hour fast its exponential the benefits just think of it this way when your sugar burner you have 2,000 calories in your fuel tank. I used two thousand twenty one hundred calories every day. Just regular
When you're using your fuel tank that's made up of fat you have access to 40,000 calories. So like the thought around when you need to eat when you're hungry is just so different because you have a massive Reserve but I like to intermittent fast every other day. And so that helps my production of ketones. It helps activate the etapa G and a table G is really just going in there and cleaning up. Why don't you do it every day based on like the world's top researchers on the topic their recommendation was to do it every other day. You can do it every day. If I do a five day water fast, I'm activating it very deeply you do it through exercise you do it when you sleep you mention the timing piece. So timing as we all know matters like when I don't think most people know that
really none food. Yeah, like they definitely get it in other.
Areas, but even even timing for me is very new. I used to think it was total bullshit. Yeah, and then because Lisa's gone through such catastrophic microbiome issues. Somebody was like if you ever tried not eating for three hours before you go to bed. I thought why would that matter like that didn't even make sense to me, but we thought well, we'll try anything at this point and that was a huge that may be the biggest breakthrough for her was just stopping eating sometimes four or five hours before she goes to bed and it makes a huge difference so one. What is your window? How far do you stop eating before you go to bed if that's part of your timing and then how do you think about timing in terms of macronutrients?
Okay. So the reason I care about timing is every cell in our body not only does it act fate at apogee, but it has a little clock in it, right so that Rhythm that circadian rhythm that won the Nobel Prize the year after a tapa G did so in 2007.
A teen and so if the idea of when I sleep and for how many hours that's just happening into my own rhythms and those rhythms really have an impact on our health. So the timing of when I'm fasting the every other day again, it goes back to that Rhythm and when you eat your macronutrients like a big part of this is fat first because it's activating your ketones and if you're going to eat carbs carbs last so counterintuitive.
I know because most people just say, oh if you eat carbs that you're going to get fat,
right? Yeah, and I'm not a pro. I'm not a big believer in in lots of carbs, obviously because most of us just can't tolerate
them. Okay. So why carbs late? Why do that last
if you're going to have carbs have them late because for someone who likes to exercise a lot it can help with the rest and also recovery for the for, you know your
For building of you muscles and Recovery is such a huge part of movement and exercise. So recovery is like the secret sauce. I see it. And if you eat your carbs late it helps you with recovery. It helps you to sleep again. Not a big believer in cards, right?
It's an interesting statement though to say that it helps you with recovery, but I'm not a big believer. So one do you take in any carbs? I'm assuming you do because you have vegetables and in some of the things that are giving you power phenols. I'm guessing we're also getting some amount of even though it's probably fiber rich, but you're getting some carbohydrate their
absolutely. So I'm so I guess how I would communicate that is there is that small percentage of the population that can thrive on a high carb diet in think about the Japanese how much rice do they eat their processing it differently. So that's why I'm couching what I'm saying, you know for the individuals that do benefit from
Then fat first carbs last for people like me. I'm going to get small quantities of carbs in the vegetables I eat but the small amount that I get is throughout the day. So I don't believe I've never believed in a one-size-fits-all
talk to me about proteins. Likely. What is that? How do you do it?
So you protein cycle in order to again just sort of activate the youth inside of your cells so
which is activating it the restriction or the giving
it's it's a little bit like muscle confusion, you know, how you can do different movements different exercises. It's sort of confusing the metabolism a little bit which I love to do. It keeps it on its toes and you get a lot of benefit that way so on the days when you have low protein so a Lo day is a day where your intermittent fasting and you have low protein you take about five percent of your calories from protein and then the day that's a high day. So every other day in
Glow 15, you're going back and forth. Hi day, you'll have the regular amount of protein that you would normally concerned that so for me. It's like 45 to 50 grams of protein on a high day. Okay, and I'll reduce that to about 5% of my calories on a load a and and you I believe you know, you can get a custom to this sort of like confusion that your body goes through and it's all for more youth more energy more focus more joy,
give me a couple meals that you eat on a day where your protein is 5% Yeah, like what is that good question.
So that's the day where I don't consume like any specific proteins and I'm going to get my protein from the vegetables that I'm eating. So I'll eat primarily vegetarian and we have like a whole slew of of the different recipes.
So walk me through Rhonda low Dave were basically vegetarian. Yeah, but I'm racking my brain to think how you
What you end up eating there? That doesn't just become carb Central, right? So we're going to have a lot of oil.
Yep, but have lots of oil lots of nuts. I love pili nuts Alina. Yeah peeling us are super delicious. They're filled with tons of good fat. I eat lots of avocados. So like even we have these egg dishes called our egg 15s and or avocado
glows you leave the egg white in when
I was so like on on on a load a will use just the egg. Yolk really interesting.
Yeah now talk to me about skincare on the outside. Okay. What can I slather on that's going to give me skin as
amazing job
now, but that's for real. No. I'm not. I'm trying to pay you a compliment that is pure jealousy driving that comment. Like how does one get to that point? So we've talked about the ingesting and now let's lather things on
so our body is consuming 60% of what we put on it and I
I've been so humbled and so privileged to literally travel all over the globe and learn from some of the most Brilliant Minds. I brought collagen as an ingestible Beauty supplement into the US market because 15 years ago. I was in Singapore and Indonesia and Malaysia and I'm like, oh my God, these women are like Beyond and I know genetically that they have great skin, but there's something else that's going on and they were eating donkey hide burgers and soup and Bone broths and ingesting all of these collagen supplements. So for me what's going on on the outside because I have suffered with so much inflammatory XML on the inside. I kind of had to become my own expert and I couldn't slather too much stuff on because it just like screwed me up. So I looked at how do I get the most Beauty? I can on the outside by putting things inside my body or
Using a dry brush to activate my lymphatic system. I mean it's exactly what it sounds like. I wish I had one it's a brush that that has sort of like harder bristles and you put it on your skin and you brush toward your heart. I do it every day. Like if you were in my hotel room you'd see I have my dry brush there you'd also see I have Epsom salts. So I take baths Non-Stop and I know it's a European thing. And I know it's an Asian thing but Beauty outer beauty is built in many parts of the world in the bathtub. So getting your magnesium which impacts 600 reactions in your body getting your magnesium in the bath is a really great way to have beautiful skin. So we're absorbing 60% of what we put on our body the key in my mind is reducing the amount of chemicals that were putting on so most women just by accident just two regular
Products put on over 500 chemicals a day like five hundred plus into their bodies oof. So if we can just reduce that number just like we can reduce our negative thoughts our skin wants to be luminous. You are any masks or anything? Oh all the time. So all I love love love hyaluronic acid, its hydrating moisture grabbing oil that I put on my face all the time. I just came out with my my skincare that I've been working on forever like too long to mention. It's called Omi outside meets inside. So it's about activating the etapa G and our skin I worked with the world's like leading.
He's a dermatologist. Dr. Richard Wang who's also a netaji expert and we gave him like 300 different ingredients. Like what activates a topology the best in the skin and he said it was ceramides which is a good essential fat. He said it was green tea, you know caffeine. He said it was a special asparagus Citrus Bergamot fruit Resveratrol. So I made a complex and it's in my entire
line and it's like a
cream or serum zits cleansers. It's moisturizers. It's all sorts of different things.
All right. So now I'm really going to make you give us some detail. It's bedtime and walk me through all the things you put on your face what whether it's washing taking the makeup off like every last bit of it.
So I'm very aware of the quality of the water that we put on our face like I've spoken with a lot of brilliant toxicologists.
Colleges cell biologists that teach us, you know what the water is and how many pollutants are in that water. You have to be really aware of so I start with using the cleanest water that I can get my hands on. So I'll use all different types of water. Sometimes I'll use Spring Water. Sometimes I'll use Sparkling Waters. There is like online on Amazon. There's all different types of waters that you can buy and you can spray your face with them every on Waters things.
Like that's how you start your routine. I would love to start that way.
Yes with water and then just depends on the type of cleanser. I'll use oil cleansers because at my age my skin is leaking moisture, right? So it's there's so much moisture coming out of it. I want to really support it and nourish it and I want to activate the etapa G. So it depends on what the day is, but basically I look in the mirror and I and I'm aware like I know if I need to be focusing more on like a lymphatic drainage.
Edge for my skin you're looking puffy. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm always fighting that so I do like little facial massages and I'll use the MCT oil. I'll use a cleanser. I'll use my cleansers to do that all sorts of different fun things.
Now, let's talk about you said caffeine at one point in passing. I've always been told to caffeine is terrible for your skin and I'm talking to drink caffeine.
Well, you have to drink a lot of caffeine you have to drink several three to four cups for it to have an effect on your hydration, which is what everybody worries about but it is a vasodilator and so it can add, you know some of the benefits of the tightening and energizing effect of the
caffeine drinking
it from drinking it but also from putting it on your skin. So that's why you know, I love the scrubs that use the coffee grounds in it. Yeah,
very
Very interesting. Okay. So if you had to say what has the bigger impact?
I'm going to make you choose between three things. You're not allowed to choose between Diet mindset or external products that we cleanse and rub on what's the the most sort of Youth invigorating
mindset hands
down interesting. Wow, that's that's really interesting, especially because it's the part of all this that you don't sell which I really Respect by the way. Yeah. Yeah
and for me, you know, there's so many contrarian perspectives in in my book. I mean even writing a book on the top of G that no one could even pronounce. I mean, I started this several years before the Nobel Prize in medicine was one I mean was one in 2016. I just had the privilege this past December of interviewing the Nobel Prize winner. Dr. Yo scenario. Sue me when I was in Tokyo. I was brought to tears from what he shared but it is about the mind.
Comes back to that and
so he was drawing a correlation between a topology and Melissa.
Absolutely you're activating a topology through so many different things. It's not just about the food. It's not just about sleeping and sleeping with your own rhythms. I mean, there's the mind is so powerful on the activation of a Toff Aegean and different things in he's really talking about intercellular Communications, right? So he's been he spent his entire career studying yeast, but he's a powerful entrepreneur like what brought him to this discovery that can change millions and millions and millions of people's lives is being the mind of a man who recognized that he had to go in his own unique Direction in order to survive really he had he was malnourished as a child his mother had tuberculosis and
You dreamt of being a scientist and everybody was in the world of chemistry and he was like, oh maybe I'll go into this new field called cellular biology and then everyone was studying these areas and he decided I'm going to study at off G and they were like, no studies out there 30 years ago. He did the study took him three years today since he won the Nobel Prize 10,000 studies are done on an annual basis. He's changed the world by being an entrepreneur who paid attention to his mindset.
Well, it's incredible.
Where can people find you online where can they find the book?
So the books all over? It's on Amazon. This is our brand-new soft cover. So it's just been a year and I'm very excited that it's out in soft cover. The book can be found on Amazon my website Naomi Whittle.com were just starting to get really active on YouTube. So going all over the world sharing recipes functional foods nutrients different types of movement Beauty, you know hacks and just the things that make us feel good and have a better life.
Well that all right if people could only make one change
And it would have the biggest impact on their health. What one change would you ask them to make?
Oh so hard what one change it would be to focus on gratitude and finding that on a daily
basis. Nice. That's amazing guys. We could have gone into a hundred topics. It is really extraordinary the number of things that she can speak very powerfully about I highly encourage you to check out the book to dive into her world. It really is extraordinary. You know me. Thank you so much for coming on the show. That was such a privileged people guys. If you haven't already be sure to subscribe and until next time my friends be legendary. Take care everybody. Thank you so much for listening. And if this content is delivering value to you, please go to iTunes go to Stitcher rate and review us that helps us build this community and that is what we are all about right now building this community as big as we can to help as many people as we can.
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