The nature of Life the nature of spirituality the meaning of life the meaning of relationships they all deep topics which have been trying to decode actually since the beginning of my life since I can remember I've been looking at my own hands and asking myself if I just stuck in a human simulation. What is the meaning of all this? Why is this mic in front me? Why is it shaped like this? What is this Human Experience? These are questions. I've always wanted to decode and that's exactly what we did. Mr. Uncle Hua Rico.
Ooh on this episode of the runway show, please note. This man is going to be back on the runway show. He's what I count as a friend of the podcast. So while initially I planned on doing a podcast on his entrepreneurial Journey very quickly the podcast turned into something much deeper where we spoke about aliens time travel the nature of marriage the nature of existence astral travel the concept of rebirth the concept of Karma the concept of Theo and Light.
Mint virus man, of course, he's had a lot of entrepreneurial experience. He studied astrophysics in college, but I chose this man for this conversation honestly because he was one of the best conversationalist I've ever come across. You meet some people who just capable of talking about any topic because of the sheer number of books that they read because of all the different kinds of humans that they've exposed themselves to a well-rounded mind with a lot of opinions.
And takes on very interesting subjects. I promise you if you're looking for mind stimulation and you've clicked on this episode of the runway show. That's exactly what you're going to get. We promise you India smart as podcast. We deliver in your smartest podcast. Mr. Uncle Hua Riku the founder of nearby.com, but more importantly one of the most fun interesting intelligent dudes. I've met in my life. He's on the runway show today. You guys are gonna love this one.
Mr. Uncle wah Ruku, how are you,
sir?
When it comes to the world of startups the guys one of BU the girls want to be with
you. How does it feel that? It's like the it's like the worst way that you can started me and brought me in man. There's like no pressure at all.
What's what's your story? I mean a lot of people probably know it but I just want you to run the audiences through it either way.
Yeah, it's been enough assassinating fascinating life front wheel.
I am so so lucky and privileged to have lived this life. I to be to be honest if you ask me when I was 20, would I be doing this? And would I be where I am the answer would be a conclusive. No, I was I was preparing for my life to become a space scientist. I was working towards become an academic and went to the US figured very quickly. It wasn't for me dropped. Everything came back to India had to start my life all over again at the age of 24.
By which most of my peers from school and college by already gone on to do multiple great things in their life, then went for a business school education. Did Consulting and 11 years back became an entrepreneur that completely changed the course of my life. And here I am.
What did you not like about America? Why did you choose to come back?
You know what? I actually love the US. I really liked my time there. I didn't like what I was doing, but I loved where I
I was I just couldn't find a middle ground between what I wanted to do and where I want it to be I speak often about this that the u.s. Is a fantastic way to uncover your own self because here's what the US does it offers you all the possible distractions that the world has to offer and literally everything you have money. You have you have entertainment you have gaming you have food you have porn you literally have everything that you want at your disposal and then it asks
You are you able to navigate through all this distraction and still make it for yourself. And I love that about the US and I love that about the the meritocracy of of how it it organizes itself, but I wasn't happy doing what I was doing. And that was the big reason why I came back
what I read about your past is that you grew up wanting to join NASA and working as I don't know. I don't know the term for it a rocket scientist or space engineer. I just want to make it sound cool, but basically
You wanted to work in the Realms of space. So did you like not try that? Did you not enjoy that after trying it? Like what happened?
Yeah, I didn't I didn't enjoy it after trying so I pursued it. I pursued it for really long extent. I was actually doing my PhD when I was in the US and two years into it. I just realized it was something that I was good at but it wasn't something that made me happy.
And that's why I came your PhD in what in in hold on to your chair in astrophysics?
Oh,
wow. Nice.
Can you can you can you take us through I mean without taking us into the depths of that subject. What's that subject about like what you learn? Why did you choose to do a PhD in astrophysics?
So so there is there is a there is a stream called astronomy, which most of us know of its base.
Clearly looking at the stars and figuring out through the light that they Emit and the visual mapping that they have. What are they all about astrophysics on the other hand doesn't look at them necessarily but looks at their motion. So it's the physics of thing and through that physics. It concludes pretty much the same things that you would perhaps conclude if you were to look at it through a telescope, so it's it's just another stream of
Looking into the night sky and figuring out what where do we belong and and what are we up to?
So I did the next obvious question that in the mind of a lot of my young college listeners is mr. Warneke. Do you believe in aliens? Like do you think that there is extraterrestrial life out there?
Absolutely. Yes hundred percent. Hey, I have grown up on X-Files. I it was the it was the only show that mattered to me. I used to look at it diligently and this was back when there was no
Jing happening late. So you literally had to wait every week for an episode to come by and I started so much about alien life about extraterrestrials about all these conspiracy theories whether we have landed on the moon or not. What happened in Roswell in 1947 have aliens visited the u.s. Have they visited India? Oh my God II have stories and stories about it, but
But yeah, I do believe in them.
Yeah same I think a huge chunk of my childhood right from the time. I think I discovered reading at around the age of 10 Ilse about 17 when the world kind of tells, you know, follow science get into engineering college that little chunk was all about the awkard and studying aliens and studying about things like the Roosevelt incident. I'm gonna ask you a kind of Moffat question. Have you had any like alien encounters or
Have you ever felt like you got abducted yourself
Nene nothing like that here. I think I saw three UFOs when I was in college. I'm pretty convinced I did but that's the closest that I've come
to hmm. I study a lot of I mean again, this is just a subject of interest for me. So I think on Instagram live stream I told you about these books by this guy called Graham hand. Yeah.
And he's basically alternative history guy. So he tries to prove that all the history. We're taught in school isn't true and it's actually a lot more to discover like how I think one of the early history lessons that I had in school was about the for civilization. So Chinese Mesopotamian Egyptian and ancient Indian but Graham Hancock strongly believes that there was a whole bunch of civilizations before that like right from around 50,000.
He sixty thousand BC around and they had a lot of contact with so-called aliens. And that's what he's trying to discover. And what happens is once the Ice Age kicked in about 11,000 12,000 years ago a lot of the land mass that we know today was actually way more Inland and there's a lot more on the course all over the world. But the Ice Age kind of took over all those land masses. That's why he her stories about dwarka and Atlantis and all these places which got submerged.
But there's a lot of talks about how aliens and humans would interact in that phase of human history and and he kind of he as well as a lot of the yoga they've read speaks very positively about alien culture extraterrestrial culture. So I'd love to know what you think about all this. What's your input on this whole ancient human alien interaction?
It's the same thing when we did that we spoke about the other day. I firmly believe that we're not the first human civilization to have lived on Earth. Where were we possibly the second or the third or maybe even higher than that Civilization? And I remember this book that really fascinated me when I was young. It was called the Chariots of the god. Hmm, and this book was all about the fact that everything that we have come to believe.
leave as a as a remnant of ancient civilization whether it's the pyramids whether it's the iron pillar in Delhi, whether it's the Mayan civilization and all that they have accomplished all of that only happened because we were visited by extraterrestrial intelligence and they were the ones who gave us all the super power and all the know-how that we needed to get that done and the way that he he spoke about
Which is quite fascinating if you think about it is if you were to go to a rally backward tribe today, let's say you go to any Forest try deep in madhya Pradesh or undermines or whatever and you carry with you your iPad and you carry with you your phone and you carry with you an internet connection and you carry with you weapons. All of them will look like literally Godlike just
as we think gods were as we depict them like literally everything the weapons that we have the artillery's Imagine them looking at what a helicopter is or what a parachute is or what just a simple car is and they would be just mind-blowing. So in their own limited primitive mind, they would start drawing us out and saying, oh my God a loudspeaker was like Shivani and then iPad happen and that was like God's tab
Eight of Ten Commandments and I'm not being Blasphemous here, but you get the drift and that perhaps is what happened. That's exactly what happened.
What's your what's your opinion on the modern world with respect to extraterrestrial life. Do you think that Area 51 is finally going to announce that aliens have been visiting us for a while.
Hi, I don't know man. I really don't know I you know, here is here is what I genuinely think.
And I think that there is a higher probability R unveiled that we are all living in a simulation.
Then the fact that aliens are visiting us right now.
Hmm. Can you explain this further? I like this. Yes,
so so I know if you've seen The Matrix the movie, I generally believe that we are in a matrix. I genuinely believe that when we think or when we have feelings of deja vu when we have feelings like have I dreamt about this and it's happening to me right now.
When we have those feelings off have I met this person before like this person sounds or looks so familiar when we have this feeling like oh my God, this is such a small world. How do you even know like, how are we even connected all of that and so much more is possibly just a computer program driving the entire world. We are sleeping somewhere, but we are dreaming and the dream is perpetual.
And it's so real that we think that the dream is the reality which is what happens to us. Right when we when we wake up there so many times when we like am I awake am I dreaming is this real is this not and it's quite likely that that is that's that's what's happening right now. I hope my luck taiki.
I'm sorry Destiny Hare Rama Rama Hare. Rama is abhay, but it'd be quite will be quite a slap on all our faces if if all that we know is it's just a computer program somewhere running and making it happen.
Yeah. So again, this is a big reason. I kind of took a deep dive into spirituality like four or five years ago because spirituality the correct spiritual books talk about all these concepts of a very yoga kind of
Perspective and I'm not talking about the women's you read about in like Muharram and they actually explain the nature of life in very trippy ways. So there's a chapter in this book called The Autobiography of a yogi. It's kind of little later in the book. It's just about the astral world and the whole experience of reading that book up till that chapter is like it's very kind of spiritual. It's very kind of a feel good book at it kind of strengthens your faith in God and positivity and then they throw in this one.
Chapter which is like it blast you out of your chair where he explains the astral World in detail. Have you read this do we read this
book iÃve read the book, but I don't recall this so so clearly I haven't paid attention to it. So
basically he talks about he explains the astral World in detail. I think chapter 41 42, the chapters called my Guru returns or something basically his the the protagonist Guru has passed away and he comes back to explain
This all comes back to explain the meaning and the nature of the astral world. So he talks about some very again for lack of a better word preppy Concepts in terms of he explains why The Human Experience exists in the first place and it's basically it's to test the Free Will of All Souls. Therefore what is a soul then he goes into explaining that imagine that there's a massive ball of Light, which you refer to as God or a higher power.
Or you know when people say oh there's something that's omnipresent. That's that ball of light. That's that encapsulates everything including hell including Heaven all that now imagine that ball of light is in a human beings brain. Okay, and you take one tiny cell from the brain and place it on your palm so that cell is the equivalent of one person's soul. So Encore Soul or and we're soul was that one cell but which is kind of tied together by being
Apart of that same ball of light now on the journey from the brain to the palm of that God's hand. There is something called seven planes and in each plane and I do I don't know what the what the explanation of a plane is. I don't know whether it is an actual physical play and I don't know whether it's something Beyond human perception, but on each plane, you kind of leave a part of yourself and you reach the lowest.
Plane, which is the Earth plane. There are lower planes than this is well, but we are on one of like the middle planes. So the lower planes would be what we refer to as hell or hellish planets or hellish Realms. But anyway, you leave parts of yourself in the higher Seven Realms and that's why there are seven chakras because each of them I or antennas to connect to like your higher seven planes and basically as you spiritually Advanced you get reconnected again with those parts of yourself that you've left in those planes therefore Concepts like deja
Or concepts like you know, this larger-than-life things where you feel that something something is off when you look at your hands and you ask yourself. Why am I with in this capsule called the human body? It's actually all your seven versions of yourself, which are like kind of getting confused and questioning each other trying to pull you back to that memory of where you came from and that's why in The Human Experience. This is spiritual purpose is like important because you're going back to your natural self, which is not that one cell. It's actually that ball.
All of light and when you do reach that ball of light, it's called mukti or Enlightenment or whatever but people think it ends there. It's not as simple as that in the chapter. He talks about once you reach Mach 3 in this plane, you go to a much higher plane called the astral plane. And the astral plane is the so-called world of Dreams where it's basically, you know how to dreams work when you're lucid dreaming if you think okay. I want a burger in my hand will be a burger in your
Sunday anything you wish for? I want to fly a now you'll end up flying. So the astral World works just like that where anything you can think of can physically be felt and that's the challenge of the astral world that it's so seductive that people get stuck there. But even in the astral World, there is a certain Evolution that you're supposed to go through which is again a very spiritual process in that word and then you move into something called the causal World, which is a higher version of the astral world where there aren't all these distractions. It's pure.
Ah, peace and the causal world. The only way you can explain it to another human being as you know, sometimes when you're really tired and you sleep you just close your eyes and then when you open your eyes, it's like 9 hours of past like you don't know where those nine hours have gone. So that's why you entered a causal state of being where you can't you lose a sense of identity you lose a sense of experience and you just wake up back into the Human Experience. And even after the causal World there is the final the actual
All of Light which are supposed to connect with once again, so this is a very rough raw explanation of this. Yeah done on a podcast but there's like a lot of books about this. So the books will be autobiography of a yogi and this book called doorways to light and channel knowledge of the rishi's. These are the three books. I would recommend the third one is a series of 14 books, which you can I order of Amazon very heavy stuff, but incredible if you want to take a deep dive, I'm going back to you
you you've inspired me.
Me to read this this book again, man. I I lost so much of Dutch from from all the things that you said and just as you were saying it and we I just felt those wave of emotions come by it's time for me to go back to the book and I think that'll be my biggest takeaway from this from this podcast. So thank you for this explanation. I'm glad but
do you think that somewhere it was that that spiritual question inside you was a kid, which made you think that you want to join NASA and become an earner?
Say in general like do you think it was the spiritual questions that cause something to change inside you?
I do know that I used to ask and this is my mom speaking of not me. But my mom does say that you used to are some very weird questions when you were a kid question like a fire that is up Guernica Cuyahoga body. Okay care if I die no, Krieger Nika and and they're like your kid like, why are you even asking these questions?
But I do know that joining NASA or space was I feel just infatuation. It's something that all kids in some way want to feel good about themselves like an astronaut or a scientist and work in a space agency and NASA was just so cool at least back then when I was growing up, but I also over the years I think lately is when I have begun to question a lot about
What do I want to do? What does peace and happiness mean to me? Is it definitely is it really chasing what the world lays out as as their definition of success is not doing those things really failure and I think a reflection on that has made me a lot more contemplative a lot more aware about what drives me what makes me happy.
what what just brings me joy and
The biggest thing that has happened then we're is I have become Hindi make word with us sometime. So that is what I have. I've actually started experiencing which is which is a balance you are you're neither overly happy when something nice happens to you. You're neither overly sad when something bad happens to you. You almost like numb but that's a poor description because now I'm almost suggests like you're not living you're actually living
And you living meaningfully, but you're not allowing your emotions to get the better of you which I like literally like
I think one one of the most impactful threads I read on Twitter was I told you this one a live stream as well. It was something you wrote as my lessons up till the age of 39 and I'd written a similar one about my lessons at 26 and mine was primarily about coming down angst and you know working hard and then add
39, you know, once those hard work principles are established once those less angst principles. I establish. It's very interesting to see how does a 39 year old human think and you had all these like Concepts about leadership. I think you had one or two our family life as well. I just I want to ask you that dude, like once you go towards the age of 40 what happens within your head like I'm not just talking about Encore. I'm talking about everyone. You know, you win.
Would what happens near 40 like do some people feel pressure do some people feel like oh shit have not made it to some people want to go even harder in the paint because now things are established what happens?
I think the the overwhelming feeling ranveer. Is that of where did this time? Suddenly go? It's like maybe maybe scarth. Ah, maybe College method. I can literally just graduated.
Right now and where the F did these 20 years just suddenly go.
Like what did I do and and that to a fair degree of people brings in a lot of unhappiness a lot of dissatisfaction a lot of just general discontentment about what all they have gotten done in life and they're like shit. I've been working so hard, but for what and I still haven't gotten anywhere and I still am Clueless.
And the number of people because I of course have a circle which is mostly 40 year olds. It is not it is not funny and definitely not something which which makes me feel happy.
The number of people who still don't know what they want from life. Oh wow.
And the Stills trying to find that out.
I they're like, I don't know why I'm doing this job. I'm doing it because it gets me money and it's like this regular Affair of a monthly salary and of appraisals and of bonuses and of promotions and all that, but I really don't know if I were to pause and ask myself. Why am I doing this? Look our I what is the what is the driver? Does it bring me joy, does it add any meaning to my life? No, and then the over then the other overwhelming feeling is if you do have or don't have
Relationships been the appreciation of it. Hmm. If you have one, then you appreciate what you have whether it's a family whether it's a fact that your parents are still with you whether the fact that you have kids and you're seeing them grow or the fact that you don't whether you are in broken relationships in toxic relationships not in a relationship at all or have lost your partner or have lost your family then the share realization that at this age
and going so forward that's the only thing perhaps that matters which will Center you back to do what life's purpose or at least Joy could be so I think it's it is swings between these two extremes, which is have I done anything professionally personally have I really stood up to what I wanted to do and then this other extreme which is
I love what I have in terms of relationships or I miss what I don't have in terms of relationships.
Dude, when I look at you, I feel like you're someone who's gained a lot of Zen a lot of Peace. So what have you done different as a 40 year old when compared to other like 40 year olds around you?
I I feel the biggest thing that drives me and perhaps my thoughts ranveer is this
deep sense of curiosity I hear is how I describe myself. I am I'm someone who loves questions but don't love answers. Hmm. And that's the best way that I describe myself. I love asking questions like I love asking why how what when whether if but it's like this dog chasing a car. I am a dog chasing a car and I have no plan.
What to do with the car stops? I'm just chasing the car and that is what happens and you replace the car with a question and I'm just chasing that question and I love I love like wide why did run we'd ask me this question. Like what is it that that ranveer has done that makes them stand apart from anyone else his age. Why did she act or behave in that way? Why did I lose my temper that that day?
Why did I feel insecure at that point of time I constantly keep asking myself that and I think just the just the reflection of it has made me richer around about what I think how I operate and then I see most of the patterns are the same. I'm no different then than anyone else and I think while we are given this drug that we are all different, but I think we're all different in what can come out of us, but we are very same in terms of how we react and how we feel
Hmm that is what has been a big learning that whatever is it that I'm going through. It's quite likely that anyone else in the same situation will go through the same thing. So if I can in some way create that awareness amongst myself within myself and amongst others, then it just makes for for a much easier much easier stay on Earth if you will.
The curiosity
what I gained from your answer was curiosity fills those voids and I feel everybody has certain voids in the Life early on it might be about over. Can I kill it in my career later becomes relationships, then it becomes existence ilysm but curiosity kind of fills that void of existentialism. And that's a question. I've had a lot in my head again asking out of curiosity something. I asked pretty cool hard as well who's 30 years old and I don't know why I have been getting thoughts about fatherhood.
Like I don't know whether it's like you know how they go like. Oh certain women at in their late 20s will get strong thoughts about motherhood. And then it's opposed to a biological phenomenon. Does it also apply to guys like do guys also get thoughts like that? Like hey, I need to raise a family. I don't know. So my next obvious question to you is about the nature of life after you've had kids like what in a kid's journey changes you as a man.
Wow. That's a that's a terrific.
Question man. I will I'll tell you the truth and this is something that I've I don't think I've shared publicly ever.
It's possibly the most gratifying thing and I'd say the thing that I will be most proud of on my deathbed which is just the fact that I got to experience fatherhood and and here is why it so happened that around the time when with or who's who's our Elder son. He's nine years old. He was born which was 2011. I saw a lot of
individuals who were shaped up as adults and the experiences and the emotions that they felt as adults because of what happened to them as kids because of how their relationship with their parents were because of how their parents who are as individuals and it dawned upon me that I too
Was an outcome of how my parents brought me up in a very meaningful Manner and I don't think I had reflected upon that as much as I did when when that happened and it was in and officious just by chance and then there was this insane sense of responsibility almost to the extent of being acting as pressure which is shit. I'm bringing this life onto Earth and whatever I
As or like as an individual and how we along with my or me along with my wife operate as parents is going to shit Define. Someone's life like Puri Zindagi and it was just insane it got me it got me thinking about so many things. How should we know? Should we shout at him? Should we scold him at all? Should we give him all the freedom that he wants should we allow him to do whatever it is should be unschool him should be school him. Should we send him to us?
CBS C board, or an international school what kind of kids will he grow around so on and so forth so on and so forth so on so forth and it was it was quite overwhelming, but then the reason II call fatherhood as a such a blessing and such a privilege is because I realized there are very few principles that you need to take care of Beyond which if you as an individual are not stuck up on how your kids are raised.
You will actually go on to raise wonderful human beings and that's what matters and and and there is like if I were to show you weathers room he has a he has a wall which is painted with Blackboard paint. So it converts into a black border is K sub super we have written these three values that we want him to always stand by which is respect for everyone.
very high sense of responsibility and zero tolerance for mediocrity and
I think that's it. It's just it if he respects everyone a respective of how they speak who they are where they've come from and so on and so forth if he always acts responsibly and he has zero or very low tolerance for mediocrity. We're sorted he sorted and it doesn't need to be anything else and then the game completely changed in 2017 when our daughter was born. That was like my God, I admittedly
I didn't want a second child. My wife was like know whether needs a sibling with only the sibling. It means a lot and she comes from a family of three siblings. I have a sister who's six years younger to me. So never really had a sibling sibling relationship is more like a elderly guardian of sorts, but you like no no. No, we need to have a sibling relationship and as like Gap without is such an angel and I can't afford two boys in my life. So so the likelihood that we will get a girl who is just as good.
Like 25% better stats come karada. Like I can't play a gamble on those odds. It's not what but thankfully it was a girl and and she's such a blessing because then having a daughter and we're is when I think you experience true fatherhood because when when you have a boy then it's like a friend but when you get a girl that's completely something else that's like you suddenly have to be
a provider a protector Plus at the same time instill in her the essence of equality the essence of equal opportunity and it's such a wonderful balance to find and and strive for and daughters just are are wonderful. They just wonderful.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. I mean, this is something I've always thought about it. What would it feel like having a daughter? But when you articulated it like that I get it man. Like I mean, I don't exactly get it but I get where you're going with the whole protection aspect like you feel a certain sense of hey, I'm not going to let anything harm you like I get that completely. I got to ask you like a tough question. This is something I discuss with my friends a while back. Is it true that raising kids in India today is like really expensive.
Like is it like really a big financial burden
here? It can be if if you're if what you strive for is is quite high. So to give you a sense our kids go too well with or at least right now Osman to Young weather goes to an international school and and it is expensive. It is expensive. It's his animal feces is more than what 30% of people in my startup earn.
Hmm and it's just the truth. So yes it is it is but again as I said, we're very privileged so I shouldn't be I shouldn't be complaining but it is expensive. Yes.
Does it like after you've had kids? Okay, forget forget that whole boys. My friend girl is my my responsibility. But after you've had kids do you get as a man do you get us?
Certain sense of okay now, I've got to work even harder or do you get more motivation like what happens inside you? Like? What does that you know, they say that every age that you've experienced in your life or remnant of that age is always alive within you. So an eight year old Uncle would still be alive inside of what a rolling code so that 25 year old, you know who's all about career and hustle and growth. What is that guy doing inside you now after you've had kids,
you know, it's funny you ask this question. It's such a terrific question again.
B I have gone on the on the other side I am someone who is so comfortable with losing everything that we have including my identity that I would love our kids to also experience it so in 2016, we went through a really bad phase because we we raised money and a lot of money for for nearby which is a startup that I found it in 2015. I made some
really bad calls very bad financial decisions. So we very quickly ran out of money. We were fundraising and it was really hard. So we had to we had to cut down on our salaries. I had to take and my Founders as well. We had to take Cuts we were we were not making as much money. So it was just a really hard time and during that time we were what I would call A Classic quintessential Urban poor family.
Where we had a house to live in and a car to drive but we literally had no money in our bank. We literally had no money in our bank and I distinctly remember it was widows birthday. And for the longest time he kept saying I want to cycle I want to cycle and he was he was ready to cycle and and we wanted to but believe it or not. We didn't have even have money to buy him a cycle.
So we actually had to sell my wife's jewelry to buy him a psycho and I actually reflect upon that and feel really happy about it because I'm glad that they went through that experience where they saw and we also experienced it ourselves that this is where we could get to and get be happy together and it really doesn't matter and I think that year bought about that.
That realization you don't need a lot to be happy in life. We just keep buying shit because of our status and because what we think the world will perceive of us.
but with my kids the approach always is
we came from nothing.
And if we have to go back to nothing that's perfectly fine. And you will still get to be great individuals. You'll still get wonderful parenting. You'll still get all the love and the care and the comfort that we can provide and whatever means we have and cow if we don't go to an international school Kauai if we don't travel in a in a fancy car, it's okay. So we love that and I think we're very different in that sense because we love them playing in dirt.
We love them. Just getting themselves drenched in the rain. We love them going on their own to buy bread and Hyundai and sabzi on their own like whether at nine he literally goes and does grocery shopping for us. And I love that about him. I love that about the fact that he can literally cycle his way through and go to the to the sabzi viola and and get other Colonial boo because we wanted and so he's connected and I love that because that's how we grew up.
Yup, that's how that was are bringing and in some surrender vicious way if we can still give him glimpses of that we find that as a good thing. So quite on the contrary instead of working hard. I'm like, let's just enjoy let's just enjoy this journey. Oh kids. Our kids are so smart. I don't know when when you left home. I left home when I was 22. I'm convinced that whether will leave home when he's like what 15 and that means we have like literally five or six years more.
It was keyboard go like it's done is he has his life and he's not going to come back in the way that he is today. So we might as well just have a nice happy time with him. Whichever matter
beautiful. What do you think of 2030 for you personally, like considering the fact that your experience in the startup world, you know, whether world of business is going you kind of have an idea. I know just speaking to your someone who reads a lot so I know you already read about these Concepts at the same time.
Aware of like what's happening now, you're in touch with people like that my myself using social media. What's your calculation for? Like the next 10 years of your
life II really don't know and the best thing is I don't care. Okay. I really don't know I so when I came back from the US and that was in 2004 long time back. I was I was heartbroken it almost felt like a
A breakup because I was in love with physics and I thought that I will I will go on to date physics and then we'll get married and then we'll be like in love forever and ever and it didn't turn out that way. So I like if I like ever like I committed myself like eight years into this. So just like this angst boy out of a broken relationship. I was like no more goals and no more targets and life. Yeah, and that's how I have actually hand on heart been living life ever since
Since Runway I commit myself to habits but not two goals not to targets so I know what I want to do every day, and I know that I want to I want to read everyday. I want to write every day. I want to create everyday. I want to speak to people and then spend time with smart people every day. But where does it take me? I don't know and I couldn't care less. What I know is that this approach has helped me in good faith tremendously where
I did for the longest times things clinically and in a discipline fashion and they just compounded in such a way that it left me amazed at the opportunities that God created and I'm fairly certain that that will be the case in 2030 as well. But I don't know what that it will be and I've I set zero expectations from from that either. I expect a lot from myself in terms of what I need to do, but not what comes out
of it.
I think that's where your whole piece Vibe is coming from that I said that you kind of you have this Vibe of exuding like piece that's coming from a very internal place in saying that I know a lot of 50 year olds and you know for that matter even 60 year olds who don't have that Vibe of Peace who probably have a certain amount of regret. I see a lot of 50 year olds actually discouraging a lot of kids. Honestly all these kids who we talked to off of your biceps, you know, the kids who watch our videos who want to become entrepreneurs. It's always the parents.
Or telling them to kind of play it the old school way, you know like play it safe not take risks because that's the time they grew up in they probably had bad experiences. Even I when I'm starting this journey so many relatives of mine told me that no worst move ever will is movable. It was the best thing I've ever doing for myself buddy. What's what's the nature of Life at 50 or 60? Do you think it's it's full of regret for a lot of people. I know it's makes you can't like generalize but what do you
think?
I I think it's a regret for a lot of people man. It's a regret for a lot of people and and that sucks. It is unfortunately sucks because I think regret is the is the worst way to end your life. It's possibly the worst way to end your life and it's unfortunate that so many so many wonderfully lead lives do end up.
In regret because they just like what if what if what if so if I were to Hazard a guess I would say most most people in the 50s 60s. I just full of regret.
Hmm, and that's because they didn't take the risk of probably listening to that conscience somewhere you have which was telling them that no do maybe do this different or it could be circumstantial you don't know exactly exactly
exactly and it's a lot of people will rationalize it saying I did the right thing for my family at the right thing for
or the situation that it is and that would be largely true. That would be largely true, but it doesn't take away from the fact that they they never did anything for themselves. It's like the as it said, right the tragedy of life is not death. The tragedy of life is what dies within while you're alive?
Oh, that's that's hurtful and deep at the same time.
Wow, that's some intense statement. But and you know, I see this all around me man, like which is why honestly, I think I think when Bo biceps and should started working initially the Zone was a lot of yeah, that's all me. It was a very WWE wrestler kind of Zone, you know showing my championship belt and then very soon I realized that no no no. No, that's that's not how this game or this world works and over the years. That's kind of been blunted down where I feel happy.
It's the state of zero celebration because there are really lofty goals are set for myself and I don't want to bog myself down with celebration. Also, I'm trying to practice stoicism which is what you spoke about at not being bothered by the highs all the lows. That's my current answer for how to live out life. But what about what about people in this 70s and 80s and I'll tell you my version of what I observe. I have a 90 year old granddad.
Who stays with me and I talk to him sometimes about just his version of spirituality and he talks about how in the last five years his health has like plummeted but his sense of spirituality has increased tremendously and he was always a God-fearing dude, but it kind of just got way more Amplified. So he's reached or Zone in his life where he doesn't even talk much. Like there's not too many words exchanged with people he can barely hear us, but then once in a while
Have conversations with them and ask him what goes on in your head like through the day what you think of and he's like man, you know, I literally just think of God and I chant like a little bit and I was I asked them did you always start this? I know I don't know just started happening. Like maybe it's some childhood memory that like awakened and he's still sharp in the head is senses aren't sharp, but he's extremely sharp in there. So just got me thinking about like the nature of life and now around the same day. I had this conversation with him now because I'm
into the whole meditation yoga school of thought we focus a lot on doing these full day fasts. Okay, like why you don't you basically just do a water fast and there's no food that's gone inside your body for 36 hours. So what happens is like towards the end of that day say 8:00 p.m. 9 p.m. On that day. You definitely feel a drop in your senses like the power in your sensor. So you can't hear as well. You don't have the energy to speak your eyes.
It is also not as good as like it is in a normal circumstance. Like you do feel this blunting of the senses. So could you call that a simulation of old age? Maybe, you know, like it mathematically speaking when you quantify those happenings, that's kind of old people feel like where everything comes more inward also the other big kind of change that happens on this full day fast is that your meditations can go way deeper because the the way for meditation to go deeper is that you need Focus Within
Your meditation session. We don't tell this to beginner meditators with a no one would meditate but if you've been meditating for a while, it's a game of focus and your focus is tremendous in those meditations because all of your body's energy is not going into digestion not going into anything like outward not going into your senses all like in word. So it just got me thinking that I think the way the human body is developed. Naturally when you're older you're meant to kind of naturally transition into things like Don
Things like meditation things like inward Focus reminiscing or live reminiscing about the nature of life. So I feel that that 50-year age bracket to about 70 may be filled with regret. Mostly may be filled with like I could have done this good or no and then after 70, you just start blunting out and you kind of turn inwards, but what do you think of this? Like do you
think III not that I have any experience, but from what you laid out, I would be very surprised if that's not the case you should
True you're absolutely true.
Because you know when there are these bhajans and Kirsten's it's always old people add those and they also were the kind of people who probably make fun of their version of old people saying that it also old going to bhajans and Kirsten's but they must be something that they discover that they're like, okay, that's that's why I want to be now. So I mean that's their version of good conversations like this. I think anyway, that's my version of it. What do you think of hyper old age? Dude, like why?
His life force human beings to like deteriorate like that other than the spiritual aspect of things
here. Is it something that I I wouldn't say, I actively think about but it's something that I have been for a very different reason speaking to a lot of young people and telling them especially the ones who are like below 20. I tell them
it's quite likely that none of you are ever going to die.
Yeah, I guess it's quite quite likely that scientifically they'll be enough progress made that you're not going to die. Naturally. You make it short or hit by a bus or anything like that and died because of that but naturally you're not going to at least my point when I say that is everything that you have come to know about how to live life is thus wrong?
Every principle that you know how to live life is wrong. We've been taught one Career One goal one marriage two kids one. This one that all of that is gone. It's gone. You have to prepare yourself for multiple careers. You have to prepare yourself for multiple relationships. You have to prepare yourself for multiple times Reinventing Your Own Self and none of you are prepared for that for no fault of yours, but just the
Fact that the system has not set you up for it. So I feel that growing old is going to get out and becoming a lifelong student is going to come in.
And it's just maybe the rational Optimist in me that believes everything that sets us back biologically will somehow be conquered but what will not be conquered is whatever sets us back emotionally or mentally because that is not something which which goes back to the exact same description that you gave like of the 7 levels and if we like no Med is going to get us to that. It has to be something
That we do within we can we can inject ourselves well shit and still get back our physical attributes. But what goes on here is is a completely different animal. So this will be interesting it will be interesting the next the next 30 50 years for this world. I feel a very very
interesting. Yeah, that's that's a very stimulating thought of like multiple jobs that gives everybody the potential to be a multi-millionaire or you know, like if that's how
you look at life. I want to ask you specifically about marriage and relationships again because you are happily married person. How long have you been married for now
now 17 years 13 years. Wow, dude, we've known each other for for now 21 years. We got we got married after seven years and we've been married now 13
years. Nice. So in a 21 year Journey what happens to a relationship dude, and why are there so many couples who
separate?
Yet I so here is here is my here is my two cents in it. I think separation is inevitable if the growth rates of the individuals is very different. It is bound to happen. It is bound to happen. So and that only happens over time, right? So Jugger if you understand the concept of compounding, let's say I grow at five percent every year and my wife.
That 10% every year and we both start with roundabout hundred.
For the first three years, you wouldn't feel much of a difference. Right? Because I in the first year become 105 then I become slightly more than a becomes a hero. So I am about 117 or by the end of third year. She is at about a hundred and twenty four twenty five by the end of third year. That's fine. But come five years come seven years. The difference becomes stuck like you suddenly start seeing a diverging path. Ja I am growing.
This but she's going like this whether it's professionally whether it's personally whether it's anything else and I just feel that's that's recipe for for just the inevitable. So I personally feel that a lot of relationships should be about ensuring that you are able to pull up the lower or the slower growth rate person to closer to where the higher growth rate person is and they're almost becomes like the
Leti it's like the the slowest one will paste the entire crowd and that's why it's very important for you to if you want to increase the speed of the crowd you don't increase everyone speed you just increase the speed of the slowest one and you automatically see an increase. I feel that relationships are like that and and that's why
if the if the husband's working and the wife is not
It becomes a very clear thing. I because the husband is getting exposed to a lot more is clearly glowing a lot more while the wife is just unfortunately stuck in whatever and there is not enough growth coming in or if the wife and the husband used to work, but after kids the wife stopped working, but the husband continued to so suddenly after that. There is this diversion growth rate that comes in.
So enough enough in more situations that lead to that but I think the biggest thing for me is a difference in the growth rate of individuals results in relationships getting hampered.
So we have covered the children aspect of it the wife aspect of it. What happens to the relationship after the kids are born like does it drift do they come close together? What happens or is it just different for everyone?
Yeah II
That's the that's the hardest part because if suddenly the onus so here is the here is the absolute fact the kid or the child needs the mother more than the father for at least the first two years and that means by Design and biological design. The mom will be a lot busier than the dad.
And that is a slippery slope because if the father is not participative during that time, they could very well feel like the the wife that they had has now just been reduced to a mother and they don't have a wife anymore or they could feel like there is no spark anymore. There is no time anymore. There is no appreciation or a conversation anymore.
And that's where I feel that father's bear of far greater responsibility in the first two years of the child towards the relationship then mothers because mother's full almost full responsibility as stewards just raring the child and attending to it.
Dude, what is the beauty of marriage like after being married for so long? Like I hear a lot of you know, guys, we're gettin married don't get a life, but it has to be some positive aspect. So what is the
positive for me? I can only speak for myself. I think the positive aspect is that my best friend is my wife.
Got it. Hmm.
I we have the same taste. We have the same worldview. We like doing the same things. We we discuss the same things.
Are our stand on on on money on religion on parenting on how to live life is pretty much the same. So we just we just have a lot of fun together. We just generally have a lot of fun together and it's brilliant company. It is independent because she has her life and I have mine but at the same time it's participative because we are parents two wonderful kids and it's wonderful companionship.
Because it's friendship at the core of it, which is why I think what really helped us when we was the fact that we got married after 7 years of dating and those seven years. We went through a lot. I was in the US then I went to the business school. So we of the seven years. We were long distance for for three years and we withstood that so we knew that there was something
This that that could work and work
meaningfully.
Yep, as they say long distance is the true test of totally relationship, but now obviously the next question has to be about time travel because that's the one thing we haven't covered. So, mr. Juarez go after your astrophysics studies. Do you think the time travel will be possible at any
point You're Gonna Marry Me the signs name was a gay, but I have then the the laws of physics state that the day the time machine gets made.
You start from there. So you can't go back in time Beyond The Day The Time Machine started that's just the law of physics. That's that's Einstein's theory of relativity. So our only hope in hell to go back to the dinosaur era or to the previous civilizations. Is that someone had made the time machine already?
That's the only way though. So I'm just betting on the fact that we are in a simulation and all of this is orchestrated. So at some point of time we will upload ourselves for saying camera time machine benally a while. It will just be a coder turning onto production one code of the time machine will give us the the fake illusion that we are who we are the owners and conquerors of time as well
now.
So since since this whole episode has turned out to be the nature of life. That's what I think the topic would the that's what I think the title would be. The question is like out of all your studies. Is there any science fiction style discoveries that mankind is going to make in the next 10 20 years, which will change the way humans live other than the fact that you know, what's it called bio bio hacking. Yeah, like other than biohacking where you
And extend your lifespan and other than that is the other things that will happen in the next 10
20. I think in the in the next 20 years. There are in my opinion the likelihood of these three things happening. We're definitely going to meet intelligent life form outside of Earth.
Absolutely, number two interplanetary travel and perhaps even settlement will become a reality.
And number three we will begin to have machines inside of us.
For virtually everything that we need whether it is predicting what we are suffering from or telling us when we should get up or telling us that this is the vitamin or mineral or protein that is lacking in our diet today or telling us that the person in front of you is ranveer.
Who runs a successful business and is a successful influencer without me even speaking all of those machines rather skills as I call it will be implanted in us. It's like Alexa Alexa today has skills so she can answer questions imagine and Alexa.
In here, which is just driven by our thoughts and our
telepathy.
Wow, that's beautiful. And I also feel that I mean human beings are going to achieve the Heights in terms of their own physical Evolution. If you may like we'll be able to engineer better-looking kids and you know stronger human beings and all that but the real question is and what will be the big human Challenge and as of now, I can only think think of likes a mental health and spiritual health and maybe like for lack of a better word romantic health and that's going to be like the area of focus in terms of how do we improve
Of these things, but what do you think? What do you think will be the next big challenge?
No, I totally agree with you here. It's like if you if you go back to the 1970s.
And you saw someone running on the streets of New York you would stop them and ask them. Why are you running and they're like, I'm running for my health and the like are you crazy? Like who does that?
So the same thing is happening right now with meditation where people I know is just a fatty about muscular. You don't do it and Tetra but meditation is going to become mainstream just as running is today just as playing a sport is today lll become a life form. It will be something that we brush our teeth and we go for a run because we know it's important. So we'll brush our teeth and we will meditate because we know it's important and
That I feel at least I hope so but I generally feel that in the next twenty ten twenty years mental health is just going to become mainstream. It's just going to become so normalized just the way physical fitness is today where people will still choose whether to do it or not and they will know it's the right thing to do like in the be Bots are looking anchoring it but it won't be like, oh my God, this is what you're doing. Are you crazy is like I wish I could do it as well. So it's like that. I wish I could have therapy. I wish I could be
Mentally at peace. I wish I could meditate and and people will then just not look at it in the way that they look at it today.
You meditate as I do I do everyday.
So how much of a link Do You observe between your meditation and your mental health?
I think a large part of it here. I it's very hard to find a direct linkage because there is so many other moving Parts, but I think that the fact that I start my day very early and I start with meditation for at least 30 minutes. It just it just centers me in very meaningful ways because I just realized that I connect
put myself in such a meaningful strong manner that very little during the day can then perturb me whether it's whether it's a troll on social media, whether it's bad news, whether it's whether it's anything that's not gone my way you like go back me like it's just
Pieces and Parcels of the same journey and you just move on I think a large part of my my composure comes from meditation for sure
hmm hundred percent and like my final question of this whole podcast is why are you on social media? Like what is the intention because it obviously isn't like, you know, I want to run this as a start-up. That's why a lot of young people take it up to build out the digital brands, but I see you doing it for other reasons. So like
What is this whole social media game you're
playing. So my my social media game ranveer is with the intention of spreading awareness. And and here's what I mean by that. I realized that a lot of people including myself when I was young we make choices in life from a point of ignorance and not awareness. We make choices in life not because we know every other choice and thus we making this choice we make choices in life because we don't know any other choice and this is the only choice
We have hmm and that just is is is unfortunate, especially in today's world. So everything that I speak about is always from the point of awareness. Did you know did you know did you know and it's like you can speak about facts did you know or you could speak about how could you go about thinking and that's what at least I delve in. I might most of my content just forces people to think. I don't give out the answers. I'm not
Tiff I hate giving out prescriptions because who am I to give out prescriptions, but I love to discuss how I thought about or I think about the same things and that's when I share it with them the Hope in hell is that they also get some sort of a framework or a guiding force to think about the same things when they encounter them. That's the intention no outcome. I don't know where this will take. I don't know whether one day I'll just switch off all the social media channels like that. It's over. It's like I'm always
minded of
Off of just what was that? What was that? Tom Hanks movie Castaway. No. No, the one in which he changes his part of the world's greatest events, and he doesn't even Forrest Gump. He's Gump. Thank you so much for his girl. How could I forget? It's it's like
it's the exact same thing in Forrest Gump when he starts running.
He starts running and he keeps running and then there is a community that goes behind him and they're also running. No one knows why he's running and everyone's attaching different agendas to it and one day one fine day. He just stops.
Anything I'm done, and it could very well be me. It could very well be me. I picture myself like that quite often.
That's that's beautiful. But I do feel that there's a lot to gain from you and I feel like the main kind of learning of an entire generation is going to happen through the internet. So I really want those key people in that going for so don't stop probably start a podcast at some point. I would have liked keep
your inspiration. So I'll pick you up on that and then definitely start
right right back at you. I have been studying a lot about you and there's actually a lot of things I want to ask you offline off of
Better but for now, I'm going to be linking your handles your page down below and incur any last signing of nodes for the
listeners know. I always say one thing ranveer and this is this is my biggest and it just make sure that you don't live life on someone else's definition of success. Hmm form your own definition of success and thus form your own definition of failure. And if you are to do that, that will be the best gift. You can give yourself beautiful.
Thank you. Mr. Varric you for being on the thank you.
Mr. Denvir. You were a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you for your thoughtful questions. It's always a joy to listen to you and and it's been an incredible experience being part of your podcast. Thank you.
I'm glad you are fun. I'm sure we're going to be doing a lot more episodes are aliens time travel and other such awkard topics, but we will we will do this again
thirdly.
