You can, like, have this insane drive to get what you want and be nice to people. You can have an insane drive to get what you want and not fuck people over.

When I'm around people, in general, I'm the same ... When you get honesty and authenticity for people that are in these really high positions of power, and you act normal, like, it sounds stupid to think that's something you have to consciously think about, but that's how celebrity is ... When people get a chance to be in the rooms, man, they don't even know how to act ... I just don't get thrown off by stuff like that; I never have.