People that are in the elite level, so these are the elite athletes, they're in the top 2.3% of VO2 max, have an 80% reduction in all-cause mortality compared to people at the low end ... The elite, if you compare them to people that are like me, I have a high VO2 max my age... they still had a 20% lower all-cause mortality ... But the people with a low VO2 max, those people had a mortality that was comparable or worse to people that were smokers, had hypertension, diabetes ... It's because being sedentary, like not being physically active is a disease. It is a disease.