And so I think the most the most popular what let's talk about one of the more popular ones and this particular diet we're going to cover next is one that really took the fitness and health, you know industry by storm. It feels like it came out of nowhere and then it just exploded part of its popularity was because it was adopted by a fitness movement. That was also happening that kind of at one point was married to it almost now, they've their separate now, but at one point they went hand-in-hand and that's paleo the paleo diet and it was By the CrossFit Community really really early on our good friend was part of that. Right? Rob wolf was all wolf was a big part of the reason why he was in the middle of doing a lot of his research and writing his book and he was also getting involved in CrossFit. So I think it kind of just naturally happened because of him I think because he was respected in that Circle was a very small circle back then and he was one of the most respected doctors in that in that Arena and he was researching and talking about a lot of the health benefits behind paleo. I think it just kind of naturally happened absolutely now pay there's been a lot around a lot longer than we think when did you guys first hear about it? When you when you remember? When do you remember it coming on the radar? I'm pretty sure it was Rob wolf. I don't think it was Chris Kresser. But yeah, I think Rob wolf just because of his involvement with Crossfit and that it was basically like if you're doing CrossFit you ate this way, and then there was people are starting to challenge. This probably isn't even the best, you know strategy. Of dieting for this type of training because of the intensity in the cardiovascular output that you were going through it. Whatever it was. I remember it was his book but I didn't know who Robert I did. Yeah, the first one I didn't know who he was though. And that's when you first kind of really hurt because that's I mean I'd have clients that would you know, I've always had this and clients that are up and up on the latest diet Trend that's out there. They tend to bring me in a book. They'll bring in a book and be like, oh they always, you know clients would suggest you should read this is really good, you know, and it was one of those books and I didn't read it cover to cover but I did grab it and kind of skim through it and like for the most part I remember thinking like, okay, this is pretty solid information. And I remember telling my client like no, I like this. I like I like the information that's being presented here. I think it's a pretty good balanced diet in comparison to a lot of diets throughout their the the tie back to liked ancestral typing. They're trying to like look a bit further back to see what you know ancient people were doing to eat and I think it's a good way to And it like look at patterns of you know, how like certain ways of eating have has staying power as funny you like that I didn't like that so I didn't like that because this is what I feel like we do with all diets. I feel like we, you know try and make a case for why it's Superior and I think that that would that's their angle is this is how we evolved to eat. I'll go dates back all the way to the beginning of time and this is exactly how they would have Aid and therefore its Superior diet. And I think that every diet will probably cover in this conversation when it did come on existence the way they Market it and way it blows up is they make a case for it being Superior to other diets. So I definitely saw through that just like I do in most diets when they get promoted because I think let's be honest diet is a (expletive) it's like made it's a made up thing. Like is it so that's a good point. I mean humans are opportunist. We eat whatever's in front of us, but I first heard about paleo I would The

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2000s. This is when I started to really look at the wellness world for information on improving gut health and this is when I first started hearing about this now, the paleo diet was really first started to be talked about in the 1970s. There was a gastroenterologist. Dr. Walter Vaudeville, and I don't know if I'm pronouncing his last name right who talked about the way that humans ate prior to the Agricultural Revolution. Now, the Agricultural Revolution is when humans discovered that they could plant crops, they no longer had to Rome and find food. They could stay in the same place grow their food raised crops raised livestock, and now they could specialize their skills. It's what led to you know, massive civilizations because now you could build societies and towns and cities because you don't have to move around so much. But before that which is most of human history, most of modern human history, I should say or modern in terms of the ways our bodies. Alt we ate what we could hunt and what we could find which limited us, right we could eat meat fish, of course insects. Nobody talks about that. But I guarantee humans eat a lot of insects nuts seeds berries and fruits and those in those were quite rare. Like if you're going around in your natural environment, you're not finding a whole lot of edible plants at least in terms of calories. You're just not getting enough so they probably ate a lot of meat and stuff like that. So the idea is humans evolved their bodies the physical bodies that we carry now evolved eating this way for most of human history. Therefore. These are the foods that are most suitable for our bodies then got popularized later on by other people. Dr. Boyd Eaton is one person and then of course the CrossFit community and all that so the diet basically and there's there's some tenants in the paleo diet because now you have people in paleo say eating sweet potatoes and even eating regular potatoes is fine. Now the original paleo, do you know dieters said no, Tubers were part of the Agricultural Revolution. No grains, including no tubers no starchy vegetables. It's all meat fish, you know edible vegetables that you could that you don't have to cook, you know berries nuts seeds and those types of things. So there's a little bit of a, you know a division there but nonetheless when I look at the diet overall, if you eat a paleo diet, you're going to eat relatively healthy. I would consider it a pretty healthy diet generally speaking in terms of one of its Pro now. What do you what do you think about this though? Because what we saw and I remember our first experience the Paleo convention was what three years ago or so some are somewhere around there and the one of the things that I noticed that was my first experience in that world and up into this point. I've probably said nothing but incredible things about the paleo diet and think it's was a great option for a lot of my clients and when I got there what I noticed was something that I noticed in the bodybuilding community that I used to Kind of scrutinize a little bit right which is the, you know, very dogmatic a little pretentious and almost extreme version of what of this this diet, right and what I mean by that is, you know, we're inside this big Warehouse place and you know, you've got you know, these families walking around with their blue blocker glasses on the middle of day and your grounding sandal. Yeah, they got their grounding sandals and bracelets on and broth everywhere and yeah, like every Booth was like, you know paleo something and it was just it was it was processed foods that were being made to fit the Paleo. What a great what a great point because one of the benefits of going real paleo is just either eating whole natural foods and it that gives you a more appropriate relationship to food because it doesn't promote over eating processed foods are engineered to be hyper palatable. They make you eat more. It's very difficult and studies now show that that's probably the reason why people are so overweight is food. So hyper palatable that Just we end up overeating. Well now paleo gets popular commercialized. So of course, what they do is they take paleo ingredients and they process them in a way to make them hyper palatable because if you want to make a food and you want to sell a lot of that food the main thing you should focus on this is from a business perspective is to make it taste really (expletive) good. That's number one. If it doesn't taste really good. You're not going to sell very many of them. And so I see a lot of that in the Paleo world is a lot of these kind of processing a Paleo Margarita explain that I've seen that yeah. I've seen explain its Parallax. I really think yeah, there is here's the other thing when it comes to training at and performing it high performance levels starches just do a (expletive) good job like to in order to eat a traditional paleo diet that doesn't include the long chain, you know, starchy carbohydrates that you find in things like potatoes and sweet potatoes or even rice. I'm not even I'm not even talking about wheat Talking about things that are still easily digestible like white rice and potato and buckwheat and stuff like that the performance benefits you get from those is awesome. Well, this is how it fell out of favor with Crossfit. That's right. I mean it started or it really started to explode with them and what Rob wolf was teaching and talking about back then but it really fell out of favor when more and more people started to dive into it and go wait a second. I mean this is really high intense training and wouldn't it be more beneficial if you're eating more high glycemic carbohydrates fast-acting carbs carbs get into your system really quick and produce energy because you need it on demand at such a high level doing something like CrossFit and I think more and more people started to realize that and then it fell out of a fleet started experimenting do with throw in sweet potato potato rice into their paleo diet donuts. And then they were a maybe not on about that know that became a very popular thing did it? Yeah. Well they started kicking (expletive). I noticed this I noticed when that to maximize my strength my Moments and if I want to build muscle, it's easier when I have some complex carbohydrates and starches in them. It's just harder to do without those Foods so paleo, although it's less restrictive than other diets. It's a bit restrictive in the sense that you can't eat any grains. You can't eat any foods post Agricultural Revolution that includes Dairy traditional pair paleo means you can't have dairy would use a macro breakdown if we were explaining would you say it's a lower carb high protein moderate fat, I would say so yeah, I would say it's moderate moderate fat may be moderate to high protein and then lower carbohydrate because you know, you're eating fruits is only so much you can eat. So that's one of the more popular ones there's because some of your pros and cons.